Ancient Hunnic chieftain had Y-DNA haplogroup L

[Proto-Shaman]

They had shitloads of ethnicities, they weren't only Turkic.

not only, but mainly.

[Kelmendasi]

So, I am a Hun or what? which subclade is this Hunnic guy? L317, L357, or M27 ?

Are you L1b? I thought you were R1a. L1b-M317 seems to have some sort of central or west Asian origin probably near the Caucasus and Iran, samples of L1b-M317 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...1773437446&z=5

[Proto-Shaman]

Are you L1b? I thought you were R1a. L1b-M317 seems to have some sort of central or west Asian origin probably near the Caucasus and Iran, samples of L1b-M317 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...1773437446&z=5

R1a is only my pan-Turkism propaganda. Now L1b will be my Hun-Turk propaganda : P

Autosomally, my father is highly Northeast Caucasian, a mix between Lezgin-Nakh-Turkic.

[Yaglakar]

Gothic was lingua franca in hunnic state. Germanic tribesmen were majority in hunnic army. 3 known hunnic words are represented in slavic languages, hunnic customs were similar to that of germanic barbarians.
Turkic huns is just nationalistic turkic bullshit. They were eastern european indo-europeans, perhaps even slavs or proto-slavs

Read this:

“We have already noted earlier the Gothic practice of Germanizing or Gothifying Hunnic royal names by adding Germanic suffixes. Thus the Germanic suffix -ila was added to names like Atilla and Rugila (Ruga), and Dengizich becomes Dintzirich by adding the Germanic suffix -reik (king). In addition even the names themselves were on occasions substituted by similar sounding Gothic names. By way of example the name of Attila’s father Mundzuk/Munčuk (pearl/jewel (turkic)) was turned into Mundiuks with the dz sound altered to make the name sound more Gothic, like the mund element in Gothic names such as Munderich. Attila’s own name was altered from Turkic As-til-a (great river/sea) to a more Gothic sounding atta-ila (little father) in the same way.” Hyun Jin Kim. 2015. The Huns. Routledge. p. 119

“With the possible exception of Laudaricus and Ragnaris, these names were not the true names of the Hun princes and lords. What we have are Hunnic names in Germanic dress, modified to fit the Gothic tongue, or popular Gothic etymologies, or both.” Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen. 1973. The World of the Huns: Studies in Their History and Culture. University of California Press. p. 389

“Laudareiks was a Hun just like Attila, despite his Germanic name or more probably the Germanized version of his originally Hunnic name. The Gothic practice of Germanicizing Hunnic names is well known. For instance the Gothic suffix -ila was added to the name of the Hunnic king Roas/Ruga (which became Roila/Rugila). The Turkic names of virtually all the princes who rule Hunnic fiefs in the east such as attila’s sons Ellac, Ernakh/Irnik and Dengizich, Attila’s kinsmen who reside in the Danubian region after Attila: Emnetzur and Ultzindur (who hold Oescus, Utum and Almus on the right bank of the Danube), also of Attila’s uncle and father Octar and Mundzuk and Hunnic royal family members Kursich and Basich, are proof that the original names of the Hunnic princes were Turkic, right up to the time of Atilla’s death and beyond, not Germanic. The Germanicization of Hunnic (Oghuric Turkic) names may have been a conscious policy among Hunnic elite in the west to ease the transition to their rule of formerly independent Germanic tribal unions.” Hyun Jin Kim. 2015. The Huns. Routledge. p. 111

“The European Huns were equally heterogenous as the Xiongnu of Mongolia. Their core language was very likely to have been Oghuric Turkic given the names of their kings and princes, which for the most part Oghuric Turkic in origin as the list below shows:
1.Mundzuk (Attila the Hun’s father, from Turkic Munčuk = pearl/jewel)
2.Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful)
3.Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aibars = leopard of the moon)
4.Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qaraton = black-cloak)
5.Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood early fight century, Barsiğ = governor)
6.Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsiğ, meaning brave or noble, or Quršiğ meaning belt-bearer)
Furthermore, all three of Atilla’s known sons have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Ernakh/Hernak, and Attila’s principal wife, the mother of the first son Ellac, has the Turkic name Herekan, as does another wife named Eskam. The heavy concentration of Turkic peoples in the areas from which the Huns derived before their major expansion into Europe and Central Asia is likely to have led to the consolidation of a Turkic language as the dominant language among European Huns.” Hyun Jin Kim. 2015. The Huns. Routledge. p. 7-8

Jordanes’ description of Atilla: “Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and tanned skin, showing evidence of his origin”

Jordanes’ description of Huns: “They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy aspect was fearful, and they had, if I may call it so, a sort of shapeless lump, not a head, with pin-holes rather than eyes…”

With regards to 3 surviving supposedly Hunnic words - their etymology is contested (Germanic, Slavic, Iranic, or Turkic). Even if it was not contested the sample size of 3 words is too small to come to any sort of conclusion. But personal names are plenty and they are of Turkic origin with subsequent Germanization. Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen summarizes etymological battle here and puts forward his own theory:

“As is known from Julius Africanus’ Embroideries and Diocletian’s Edictum de Pretiis, the Pannonians drank kamos (kamum) long before Attila. The word is Indo-European. Vambery’s Turkish etymology kamos = qymyz, followed by Dieterich, Parker and for a while Altheim, is to be rejected. -os is the Greek ending, kam- is not qymyz, and qymyz is a drink of milk, not barley. Medos, too, is Indo-European, either Germanic or Illyric.”
Strava:
The initial consonant cluster precludes the Turkish etymology offered by B. von Arnim. Grrimm reconstructed from Gothic straujan, ‘to strew’. Since then this etymology has been repeated so often that to doubt it is by now almost a sacrilege….
There remains Slavic etymology… Occasioanlly and under special circumstances foreign words were borrowed for an old, native burial custom. But it is most unlikely that the Huns turned to Slavs for a term to designate what was doubtless a Hunnic custom. One of Priscus’ or Jordanes’ informants seems to have been a Slav. Knowing neither Hunnic nor Slavic, Priscus or Jordanes could have take Strava for a Hunnic word.” Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen. 1973. The World of the Huns: Studies in Their History and Culture. University of California Press. p. 425-426

[Yaglakar]

Strange:


However:
The Huns were "a confederation of warrior bands", ready to integrate other groups to increase their military power, in the Eurasian Steppe in the 4th to 6th centuries AD. Most aspects of their ethnogenesis (including their language and their links to other peoples of the steppes) are uncertain. Walter Pohl explicitly states: "All we can say safely is that the name Huns, in late antiquity, described prestigious ruling groups of steppe warriors."

So was this Hunnic chieftain Turkic or from other nomadic tribes who joined Huns?

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[LoLeL]

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NOPE

[Yaglakar]

NOPE

[Proto-Shaman]

3 known hunnic words are represented in slavic languages, hunnic customs were similar to that of germanic barbarians.
Turkic huns is just nationalistic turkic bullshit. They were eastern european indo-europeans, perhaps even slavs or proto-slavs

Russian strongness and barbarism comes from Turkic Huns. Welcome to the 4urka club. Turan livs in your veins.

[Proto-Shaman]

Are you L1b? I thought you were R1a. L1b-M317 seems to have some sort of central or west Asian origin probably near the Caucasus and Iran, samples of L1b-M317 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...1773437446&z=5

Do you also have map for L-M20?

[Cumansky]

I have unusual Hungarian German match Y-DNA L

They get around 9.4% East Eurasian, 3.5% SSA, 1.5% Melanesian. When my phone charges I will post it here