View Poll Results: How should Mr. Trump implement his Muslim Ban

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  • By withholding Visas from terror prone countries

    3 16.67%
  • By deporting illegal immigrants who have committed violent crime

    4 22.22%
  • By opening a Muslim registry and monitoring Mosques

    2 11.11%
  • By not permitting any practicing or believing Muslim enter the United States

    8 44.44%
  • Trump should only extremely vet the immigrants for terrorism ties

    1 5.56%
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    Huh? I was born here, ergo not an immigrant. Also, I had no allegiance to the U.S. many years ago when I was steeped in leftist, cultural marxist, and Islamic rhetoric all my life and conflated the regimes of corrupt war criminals (Bushes, Clintons, etc) for American interests.
    what made you realize that the leftist, cultural marxist rhetoric was nonsense?
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    America's history as a minarchist/Libertarian, paleo-conservative country based on innate human rights and Free Market principles makes me proud to be American. That is why I want to preserve what remnants we have left of America's true founding legacy.
    very well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    Parrot what? I don't have right-wing friends IRL. My points are just what I've noted.
    I wrote NEIGHBORS NOT FRIENDS. Your part about Amerindians not being American seems to be a word-by-word transcript from one of Paul Ray Ramsey Twitter posts... You know, if you want to cure your brain from all the leftist, cultural Marxist and Jihadist crap you were exposed to in the past, exposing your brain to the opposite propaganda isn't the best solution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony PV View Post
    I wrote NEIGHBORS NOT FRIENDS. Your part about Amerindians not being American seems to be a word-by-word transcript from one of Paul Ray Ramsey Twitter posts... You know, if you want to cure your brain from all the leftist, cultural Marxist and Jihadist crap you were exposed to in the past, exposing your brain to the opposite propaganda isn't the best solution...
    the demographic displacement of amerindians could very well be considered a crime by modern standards (although people did things differently back then, and this is not the only case in which this happened in history at all), but amerindians are obviously not american in the sense that they are not a part of the civilization that was developed by the european settlers, to say otherwise is a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by paprika View Post
    what made you realize that the leftist, cultural marxist rhetoric was nonsense?

    very well said
    None of it is based on objectivity or reality. The irrational nonsense they espouse (a la esoteric hypotheses and baseless sociological explanations) in response to empirical evidence that contradicts Leftist and Marxist assertions made it more than clear.

    The scientific reality of evolution, Human Biodiversity (HBD), and average intelligence + criminality disparities among populations was also a large factor in my red-pilling journey.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention that my exposure to rational, secular philosophy from Stefan Molyneux and Aristotle was pivotal in my development as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paprika View Post
    By not permitting any practicing or believing Muslim enter the United States

    however ones who are already here should not be monitored in a way that violates their privacy, that is against the rule of law and people's right to privacy should be respected
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    None of it is based on objectivity or reality. The irrational nonsense they espouse (a la esoteric hypotheses and baseless sociological explanations) in response to empirical evidence that contradicts Leftist and Marxist assertions made it more than clear.

    The scientific reality of evolution, Human Biodiversity (HBD), and average intelligence + criminality disparities among populations was also a large factor in my red-pilling journey.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention that my exposure to rational, secular philosophy from Stefan Molyneux and Aristotle was pivotal in my development as well.
    Red pilling from anthroforums and from Stefan Molyneux lol.
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    I wonder whether Trump's proposed Muslim ban, based on religion, is consistent with the constitution of the US.


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    Mr. Trump's proposed Muslim ban is "profoundly unconstitutional" - says judge Andrew Napolitano on Fox News..


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    Trump defends his Muslim ban

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    I think Trump should stick to his plan to open a Muslim registry and start tracking them and listening in on their curricula in their mosques, realign our NATO priorities more wisely and not consider any member which is not committed to fighting the global jihad threat as well as Islamism. Trump should designate the Muslim Brotherhood and all its offshoots, which are now the greatest Muslim advocacy groups in North America. Shut down CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), ISNA, NAIT (North American Islamic Trust). Start arresting people for treason and sedition. To make an example out of Islamists everywhere. Trump should also reconsider US alliances with terror sponsoring countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.

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    I think the most straightforward way to do it would be on the basis of citizenship. In such a scenario, at least the majority of visas that would otherwise be granted to citizens of Muslim-majority countries would not be granted.

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