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    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    The middle enjoys pushing out the fantasy that civilization came out of the middle east. In fact the first large settlements are in europe many thousands of years earlier.

    There's also tons of ruins all over the place that go back far beyond the written timeframe. 15k years old in europe, 10k+ years old in India, and so on. Not to mention it can be hard to carbon date things like rock so possibly south american civilizations go back much further than credited.

    But while there's civilizations all over there is no black civilization in africa because they only spread out from the jungle about 3k years ago. It's like asking why the eskimos built no cities. Well, they had a small population and an environment where that is not really possible! But there is also the possibility that black africans originally came out of southern india and a few other theories like that which could mean they did have cities at one time.



    All the ancient cities were built with slavery. In fact social stratification is one of the retarded ways they define "civilization". They also always assume EVERYONE is illiterate unless proven otherwise by very extensive proof. I am not so sure they were all illiterate but that is typically assumed unless they find a enough inscriptions to show a real language was being used for certain.
    most of africa was illiterate but few did have some use symbols for meaning. And i am not talking egyptians.theres one called nbsidi . Theres another script i forgot what its called. I am not sure if its the val script or another one but it was rediscovered in brazil with brazilian africans still using the script and was restored into use fo one of the countries. But even most africans dont even know anything about stuff like that. They werent allowed to learn about stuff like that anyways in colonial times.

    the tauregs are said to als to be the closest to the ancient berber script. They are mixed though

    they also had had blacksmithing in some parts that was done. Nok people i think are ones to first do it for them and did it independantly. Its why they had sword weapons also and some bronze art in african empires predating colonialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    most of africa was illiterate but few did have some use symbols for meaning. And i am not talking egyptians.theres one called nbsidi . Theres another script i forgot what its called. I am not sure if its the val script or another one but it was rediscovered in brazil with brazilian africans still using the script and was restored into use fo one of the countries. But even most africans dont even know anything about stuff like that. They werent allowed to learn about stuff like that anyways in colonial times.

    the tauregs are said to als to be the closest to the ancient berber script. They are mixed though

    they also had had blacksmi
    ithing in some parts that was done. Nok people i think are ones to first do it for them and did it independantly. Its why they had seord weapons also and some bronze art
    Proof of literacy, regardless of location, only shows up relatively recently. Most ruins are of groups that are just assumed illiterate because there is no proof of it (though they may well have been regardless).

    I don't think that any mention of the age of the nigerian ruins was found. There's also lots of weird ruins in south africa as well, but again what people mostly seem to care about are black africans and they only came there very recently. Who lived there thousands of years ago? It is not clear. How old are the ruins? Impossible to say, but they generally just make up some BS number - they could be 10k years old for all we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    Proof of literacy, regardless of location, only shows up relatively recently. Most ruins are of groups that are just assumed illiterate because there is no proof of it (though they may well have been regardless).

    I don't think that any mention of the age of the nigerian ruins was found. There's also lots of weird ruins in south africa as well, but again what people mostly seem to care about are black africans and they only came there very recently. Who lived there thousands of years ago? It is not clear. How old are the ruins? Impossible to say, but they generally just make up some BS number - they could be 10k years old for all we know.
    They are some old civilizations probably that predate most likely. But the bulk of more recent african civilization in west africa stems from the bantu migration out. Theres a old story folklore about one african guy from a specific kingdom that helped pread the bantu migration. Id have to look it up later. But yea like the case of zimbabwe stone structures is unknown case. Most west africans that were literate were practicing islam and wrote in arabic and thats how they had the library of timbiktu which i think was from the mandinkas but i could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    Proof of literacy, regardless of location, only shows up relatively recently. Most ruins are of groups that are just assumed illiterate because there is no proof of it (though they may well have been regardless).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Nubian_language

    Nubians were writing in the eight century before most Europeans. The earliest form of writing in Europe is the Greek alphabet in the late eight century BC which came from the Phoenicians.
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    Sub-Saharan Africans smelted iron in 500 B.C.

    http://www.sahistory.org.za/article/...outhern-africa

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    or Kerma Culture



    The Kingdom of Kush lasted for over 1400 years. It was first established around 1070 BCE when it gained its independence from Egypt. It quickly became a major power in Northeast Africa. In 727 BCE, Kush took control of Egypt and ruled until the Assyrians arrived. The empire began to weaken after Rome conquered Egypt and eventually collapsed sometime in the 300s CE.

    The Kingdom of Kush was very similar to Ancient Egypt in many aspects including government, culture, and religion. Like the Egyptians, the Kushites built pyramids at burial sites, worshiped Egyptian gods, and mummified the dead. The ruling class of Kush likely considered themselves Egyptian in many ways.



    Two of the most important resources of Ancient Kush were gold and iron. Gold helped Kush to become wealthy as it could be traded to the Egyptians and other nearby nations. Iron was the most important metal of the age. It was used to make the strongest tools and weapons.

    Outside of the Pharaoh and the ruling class, the priests were the most important social class in Kush. They made the laws and communicated with the gods. Just below the priests were the artisans and scribes. Artisans worked the iron and gold that was such an important part of the Kushite economy. Farmers were also respected as they provided the food for the country. At the bottom were servants, laborers, and slaves.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Sub-Saharan Africans smelted iron in 500 B.C.

    http://www.sahistory.org.za/article/...outhern-africa
    Yeah metal age was late for BantusBut it spread like wild fire once it happened. They pushed out other cushitic /san related groups out that were there before.

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