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    Same sex marriage - Arguments for and against - The right of homosexuals to marry

    Gay marriage or same-sex marriage refers to marriage between two people of the same gender, typically because they are homosexual. It is a controversial subject in many religions and countries. Some countries allow a similar status of "civil union" which is marriage in all but name.

    Arguments for Gay Marriage

    If people want to get married, even if they of the same gender, there is no good reason to stop them. Therefore gay marriage should be allowed.

    Gay marriage provides stability and benefits to the lives of those involved. For example, if one person is sick, the marriage partner has additional rights when dealing with authorities.

    In July 2007, Austin Cline ran a poll on his weblog asking whether atheists should be allowed to marry. Respondents overwhelmingly said that marriage is a civil institution, not a religious one (it should be kept in mind that this poll was posted on an atheist weblog, and therefore the distribution of respondents was certainly skewed). Based on this, Cline drew the obvious conclusion:



    "If religion isn't a good reason to prevent atheists from getting married, how can it be a good reason to prevent gays from getting married?"

    Arguments against Gay Marriage

    Both religious and secular arguments have been presented against gay marriage. It is notable, however, that most of the opponents of gay marriagecertainly the most vocal onespresent religious arguments, either alone or in addition to secular arguments. Rarely, if ever, does anyone present secular arguments alone. This leads to the conclusion that opposition to gay marriage is primarily rooted in religious beliefs. Arguments from religious beliefs fail as arguments since there is no evidence to suggest any holy book is true, and places like the United States have separation of church and state.

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    God defined marriage as between a man and a woman

    Based on Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:24, apologists say:

    "marriage was ordained by God and instituted in law."
    — Mike Pence, US Vice President 2017

    Contrary to apologists' claims, the Bible does not explicitly define marriage in this way. Apologists are interpreting the Bible to fit their own preconceptions.

    The notion of "complementarity" of a man and a woman in marriage is contradicted by other laws that allow for polygamy Deuteronomy 21:15-17, as well as divorce after sexual immorality Matthew 5:32. These arrangements are not condemned and often directly condoned by the God of the Bible. Therefore, marriage is not defined as between one man and one woman.

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    Contrary to the purpose of marriage

    "[Same sex marriage] also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children."

    This is a teleological argument based on the suppose purpose of marriage. However, the assumption that marriage has a particular "purpose" has not been established. Marriage is a human invented concept and only has meaning that we bestow on it.
    "[Heterosexual marriage] naturally tends to create families. On the contrary, same-sex “marriage” is intrinsically sterile."

    This variation of the argument commits the naturalistic fallacy. Just because something occurs in nature, does not in itself make it desirable.

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    Human nature

    Apologists claim that same sex marriage violates natural law.

    "Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law. "

    There is no grounds to believe any "natural law" exists, except in the human mind. There is also little agreement as to what natural law entails. It is also difficult to justify any such natural law without committing the naturalistic fallacy.

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    Children's Interests

    "It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent."

    "[Heterosexual marriage] is the glue of the American family and the safest harbor to raise children."

    — Mike Pence, US Vice President 2017

    Research shows that having two parents, either same sex or heterosexual, is about the same for children.

    "On the basis of a remarkably consistent body of research on lesbian and gay parents and their children, the American Psychological Association and other health, professional, and scientific organizations have concluded that there is no scientific evidence that parenting effectiveness is related to parental sexual orientation

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    Validates and promotes deviant lifestyles

    Apologists claim that same sex marriage would validate and promote this lifestyle, presumably making people homosexual.

    That assumes homosexuality is a choice, which it is not. Since it is not a choice, it does not matter if this lifestyle is validated or promoted since it will not significantly influence people's behaviour. It's like saying an owl festival would encourage people to become owls, which is absurd.

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    Devalues Traditional Marriage

    Apologists argue that same sex marriage devalues traditional marriage.

    This is a vague statement: what does the apologist mean by "devalue"? The existing heterosexual marriages can continue in exactly the same way as before. No harm, no foul.

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    Weaken public morality

    Apologists argue that same sex marriage weakens public morality.

    This argument assumes that homosexuality or same sex marriage is immoral, which is not generally accepted. The concept of "public morality" and how it may be "weakened" is vague and arguably meaningless.

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    Subverts state support for marriage

    "One of the main reasons why the State bestows numerous benefits on marriage is that by its very nature and design, marriage provides the normal conditions for a stable, affectionate, and moral atmosphere that is beneficial to the upbringing of children—all fruit of the mutual affection of the parents.

    This argument is an argument from authority that the purpose of marriage is to raise children. However, the state is not a generally recognised authority on this matter.

    The state supports childless marriages. Based on this argument, these couples are exploiting the state by taking benefits and not spending them on children. This is absurd.

    If it were necessary to only support child rearing marriages, the state could change regulations so only these families receive state support.

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    2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers, for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God. As God hath said: I will dwell in them and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

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