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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Interesting. So are you against homosexual sex acts mainly because of your religion?
    To be fair to you, the Bible is actually very clearly against homosexual sex, both in the Old Testament and the New.
    St. Paul was very clear in Romans.

    Homosexuality is nothing new. It exists in other mamalian species too. It is not just a human phenomenon but more broadly a mamalian one. I will post some information about homosexuality occurring in nature, if you're interested.

    As for homosexual marriage, all homosexual couples are asking for the right to be treated with equal dignity before the law. Several constitutions in the modern world grant them that right.
    Probably because im socialised by the christian religion to think like that, yes. And about homosexuality in animals DI1ck wrote something interesting. Ask him, but it would be interesting if you post your sources too and compare who is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Probably because im socialised by the christian religion to think like that, yes. And about homosexuality in animals DI1ck wrote something interesting. Ask him, but it would be interesting if you post your sources too and compare who is right.
    In the post that you quoted, I simply wrote extemporaneously, I didn't quote a source. But don't worry, I will cite more carefully next time I post. Having said that, the arguments stand and fall on their own merits irrespective of who is making them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Probably because im socialised by the christian religion to think like that, yes. And about homosexuality in animals DI1ck wrote something interesting. Ask him, but it would be interesting if you post your sources too and compare who is right.
    What I wrote from the other thread regarding homosexuality in animals:
    An interesting quote from a homosexual scientist, Simon LaVey from a 1996 article published by the 'National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality'. Paying close attention to the verbiage it is clear that the evidence pointed to isolated acts, not to homosexuality itself:
    "Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity."

    Then, of course, Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain offers his take:
    "Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."

    As for sources; these quotes, the individuals cited, publications in which they were published in, et al can all be researched. I think the conclusion is obvious.

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    Evolving language and understanding of homosexuality

    Source: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...=Homosexuality

    The word “homosexual” was not created until the late 19th century. It first appeared in an English Bible in the New International Version, 1973. Before that, “sodomite” was commonly used, clearly defined as a sexual act and unrelated to the Greek root words of “arsen” meaning “man” and “koitai” meaning “bed” with a sexual connotation. “Arsen” and “koitai” appear separately but near each other in Leviticus. These are Koine Greek translations of Hebrew that appear in the LXX version of the Torah that Paul would have drawn from to create the word “arsenkoitai”. Online Greek translators do not recognize the word “arsenkoitai”. Its first appearance in writing was in the writings of Paul and has very little use outside of Biblical references.

    In Biblical times, homosexuality as a loving relationship was rarely written about. Men raping men was used to show domination and was used by conquering soldiers. Homosexual sex also used in pagan rituals. In the time of Paul’s writings, homosexuality was seen as a more lustful expression, and men having sex with a properly submissive woman seen as a normal expression of lust. (See Romans 1:26 above).

    Homosexuality was still seen as abnormal into the 20th century and homosexuals were not allowed to be psychiatrists. In 1957 Evelyn Hooker conducted the first analysis of homosexuality that included men who were not diagnosed with a disorder, that is, men who were functioning normally in society. Her methods have been criticized, but her analysis has been repeated and verified.

    Amid protest by gay activists for the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder, it was removed from the DSM of the APA. It was ratified by a 58% vote. “Closeted” homosexuals had managed to become psychiatrists, leading to accusations that they “infiltrated” the APA to change the DSM.

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    Homosexuality is Natural

    Source: https://www.exposingtruth.com/homosexuality-is-natural/

    It is often argued that homosexuality or bisexuality are not normal, or not natural, and that they have no place on this Earth. This, however, is just a misconception based on insufficient information or indoctrination.

    In some ways we could argue that since it happens at all, that it is natural. Unless we assume there is some unnatural external force teaching or manipulating some of us, seemingly at random, that could change what we were sexually attracted to. Of course some people claim this to be the case; claiming the cause is the media or the devil, and unfortunately some naturally homosexual people believe that too, living a life in denial, or attending some conversion therapy in an attempt to ‘be normal’.

    However, the truth is that homosexuality is, and has been for a very long time, natural, while the definition of normal varies from person to person, being normal does not suggest being special or unique, and could even be used as a derogatory description.

    Being gay or bisexual should not be considered as immoral or criminal by itself, especially when considering the statistics of hate crimes, often violent, due to sexual-orientation bias

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    Here is a video that addresses the claim "Homosexuality is not natural".

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    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-Homosexuality
    The Bible, Christianity, and Homosexuality.

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    Here is one of my favorite authors, Richard Dawkins, explaining how natural homosexuality is.

    "How does evolutionary biology explain homosexuality?"

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    Homosexual behavior in animals is sexual behavior among non-human species that is interpreted as homosexual or bisexual. This may include sexual activity, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting among same-sex animal pairs. Research indicates that various forms of this are found throughout the animal kingdom. As of 1999, about 500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, have been documented engaging in same-sex behaviors. According to the organizers of the 2006 Against Nature? exhibit, it has been observed in 1,500 species.

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homose...ior_in_animals

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