Post your Gedrosia K3 results

[Dunai]

Wrong. Apparently you have no idea how all K3 calculators work. While 23andme measures ancestry in the last 200 years, all K3 calculators measure ancestry in the last 10,000 years (E Eurasian, SSA, W Eurasian).

Also, if you read qpAdm results published in papers such as Harvard you’ll notice a statement such as “Mbuti or SSA includes Basal Eurasian “. Same applies here. SSA measures African+Extra Basal Eurasian not captured by W Eurasian component.

Even though the calculator can be improved, it’s still the best calculator at Gedmatch for measuring TOTAL admixture over last 10,000 years. I believe there are better ones but they are not free at GenePlaza.com

Read this from the Paleolithic Caucasus paper page 52 explaining what Mbuti is in the qpAdm results

I kinda agree with your conclusion, since this calculator takes into account the most archaic admixture in your DNA, and based on thousands of years back there was quite a lot of movement all across the globe between isolated people at some point. Since it strictly focuses on 3 major components I don't think it's really that unreasonable what archaic percentages it offers. As a Hungarian I could well see why I do have 6% ancient East Eurasian admixture, since based on the history of the region where I'm from this very well correlates. There were also plenty of African slaves in Europe since ancient times, so not surprising at all when so many people score little bit of SSA.

[Mr.G]

Me:

Population
E_Eurasian 4.39 Pct
SSA -
W_Eurasian 95.61 Pct

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My Mother:

Population
E_Eurasian 2.86 Pct
SSA -
W_Eurasian 97.14 Pct

[InfamousAngel99]

E_Eurasian: 3.69
SSA: 0
W_Eurasian: 96.31

1 Hungarian @ 0.000000
2 Lithuanian @ 0.000000
3 Ukrainian @ 0.834072
4 Bulgarian @ 1.003412
5 Norwegian @ 1.055552
6 Czech @ 1.405895
7 Georgian @ 1.418044
8 Croatian @ 1.490090
9 Belarusian @ 1.756425
10 Albanian @ 2.267921
11 French @ 2.319155
12 Estonian @ 2.420115
13 Greek @ 2.570549
14 Armenian @ 2.647038
15 English @ 2.823060
16 Abkhasian @ 2.983706
17 Spanish @ 3.409634
18 Loschbour @ 3.440050
19 French_South @ 3.610107
20 Georgian_Jew @ 3.711489

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
2 50% Belarusian +50% Czech @ 0.000000
3 50% Czech +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
4 50% English +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
5 50% Estonian +50% French @ 0.000000
6 50% Hungarian +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
7 50% Hungarian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
8 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
9 50% Norwegian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
10 50% Belarusian +50% Norwegian @ 0.253227
11 50% English +50% Loschbour @ 0.254128
12 50% Croatian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.266567
13 50% Belarusian +50% French @ 0.270468
14 50% Hungarian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.283279
15 50% French_South +50% Loschbour @ 0.299300
16 50% Abkhasian +50% English @ 0.352250
17 50% Bergamo +50% Loschbour @ 0.412659
18 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.419865
19 50% Albanian +50% Estonian @ 0.456955
20 50% Albanian +50% Belarusian @ 0.461078


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian +25% Belarusian +25% Stuttgart @ 0.000000

[nee4speed111]

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 85.06
2 SSA 14.94


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 BedouinA @ 1.622310
2 Palestinian @ 5.091400
3 Jordanian @ 5.316196
4 Yemenite_Jew @ 6.231514
5 Saudi @ 6.761885
6 Syrian @ 6.947053
7 Lebanese @ 8.468409
8 Yemen @ 10.994279
9 Iraqi_Jew @ 14.156556
10 Kurd_C @ 14.947198
11 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 14.984680
12 Iranian_Jew @ 15.011826
13 Assyrian @ 15.339971
14 Iranian @ 15.431933
15 Cypriot @ 15.718573
16 Georgian_Jew @ 15.772721
17 Sicilian @ 15.797106
18 Kurd_N @ 16.062107
19 Armenian @ 16.428574
20 Turkish @ 17.488375

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +50% BedouinA @ 1.622310
2 50% BedouinA +50% Palestinian @ 2.297994
3 50% BedouinA +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.671343
4 50% BedouinA +50% Jordanian @ 2.697475
5 50% BedouinA +50% Saudi @ 2.978184
6 50% Yemen +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.065320
7 50% Saudi +50% Yemen @ 3.106143
8 50% BedouinA +50% Syrian @ 3.429714
9 50% Iraqi_Jew +50% Yemen @ 3.639964
10 50% Cypriot +50% Yemen @ 3.701603
11 50% Lebanese +50% Yemen @ 3.808120
12 50% Sicilian +50% Yemen @ 3.852143
13 50% Palestinian +50% Yemen @ 3.904310
14 50% BedouinA +50% Lebanese @ 3.988257
15 50% Ashkenazi_Jew +50% Yemen @ 4.019161
16 50% Assyrian +50% Yemen @ 4.264327
17 50% Spanish +50% Yemen @ 4.463726
18 50% Iranian_Jew +50% Yemen @ 4.472219
19 50% Syrian +50% Yemen @ 4.627409
20 50% Armenian +50% Yemen @ 4.755203


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Ethiopian_Jew +25% Sardinian @ 0.710146

Done.

[Borealis]

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 85.06
2 SSA 14.94


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 BedouinA @ 1.622310
2 Palestinian @ 5.091400
3 Jordanian @ 5.316196
4 Yemenite_Jew @ 6.231514
5 Saudi @ 6.761885
6 Syrian @ 6.947053
7 Lebanese @ 8.468409
8 Yemen @ 10.994279
9 Iraqi_Jew @ 14.156556
10 Kurd_C @ 14.947198
11 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 14.984680
12 Iranian_Jew @ 15.011826
13 Assyrian @ 15.339971
14 Iranian @ 15.431933
15 Cypriot @ 15.718573
16 Georgian_Jew @ 15.772721
17 Sicilian @ 15.797106
18 Kurd_N @ 16.062107
19 Armenian @ 16.428574
20 Turkish @ 17.488375

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +50% BedouinA @ 1.622310
2 50% BedouinA +50% Palestinian @ 2.297994
3 50% BedouinA +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.671343
4 50% BedouinA +50% Jordanian @ 2.697475
5 50% BedouinA +50% Saudi @ 2.978184
6 50% Yemen +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.065320
7 50% Saudi +50% Yemen @ 3.106143
8 50% BedouinA +50% Syrian @ 3.429714
9 50% Iraqi_Jew +50% Yemen @ 3.639964
10 50% Cypriot +50% Yemen @ 3.701603
11 50% Lebanese +50% Yemen @ 3.808120
12 50% Sicilian +50% Yemen @ 3.852143
13 50% Palestinian +50% Yemen @ 3.904310
14 50% BedouinA +50% Lebanese @ 3.988257
15 50% Ashkenazi_Jew +50% Yemen @ 4.019161
16 50% Assyrian +50% Yemen @ 4.264327
17 50% Spanish +50% Yemen @ 4.463726
18 50% Iranian_Jew +50% Yemen @ 4.472219
19 50% Syrian +50% Yemen @ 4.627409
20 50% Armenian +50% Yemen @ 4.755203


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Ethiopian_Jew +25% Sardinian @ 0.710146

Done.

Crazy.

[Borealis]

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 56.92
2 E_Eurasian 41.79
3 SSA 1.29

[Grace O'Malley]

The Oracle is worthless of course.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 96.24
2 E_Eurasian 3.76


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 0.000000
2 Lithuanian @ 0.000000
3 Ukrainian @ 0.740286
4 Bulgarian @ 1.051975
5 Norwegian @ 1.149418
6 Georgian @ 1.406215
7 Czech @ 1.499757
8 Croatian @ 1.583883
9 Belarusian @ 1.662550
10 Estonian @ 2.326240
11 Albanian @ 2.355007
12 French @ 2.411584
13 Armenian @ 2.631951
14 Greek @ 2.650661
15 Abkhasian @ 2.892462
16 English @ 2.916878
17 Loschbour @ 3.346175
18 Spanish @ 3.474367
19 Georgian_Jew @ 3.650252
20 French_South @ 3.702081

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
2 50% Belarusian +50% Czech @ 0.000000
3 50% Belarusian +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
4 50% English +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
5 50% English +50% Loschbour @ 0.000000
6 50% Estonian +50% French @ 0.000000
7 50% Hungarian +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
8 50% Hungarian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
9 50% Hungarian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
10 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
11 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
12 50% Norwegian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
13 50% Croatian +50% Estonian @ 0.285950
14 50% Czech +50% Ukrainian @ 0.289494
15 50% French_South +50% Loschbour @ 0.299300
16 50% Belarusian +50% French @ 0.336843
17 50% Abkhasian +50% English @ 0.352250
18 50% Albanian +50% Estonian @ 0.352750
19 50% Bulgarian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.374300
20 50% Chechen +50% Stuttgart @ 0.374344

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 56.92
2 E_Eurasian 41.79
3 SSA 1.29

Is this calculator good enough for breaking down Indian ancestry into West and South Eurasian? I still wonder how much Caucasoid Dravidian India would be.

[Aila]

E_Eurasian 12.82 Pct
SSA -
W_Eurasian 87.18 Pct

1 Balkar @ 0.555758 (Mountain Tatar Pride2)
2 Russian @ 2.242566
3 Turkish @ 2.298941
4 Finnish @ 2.717184
5 Mordovian @ 2.960285
6 Iranian @ 4.376290
7 Adygei @ 4.879373
8 Kurd_C @ 6.262031
9 Chechen @ 6.659334
10 Kurd_N @ 8.264535
11 Loschbour @ 9.476415
12 Tajik_Pomiri @ 9.939646
13 Abkhasian @ 10.037613
14 Estonian @ 10.496349
15 Makrani @ 10.781157
16 Brahui @ 10.799322
17 Georgian_Jew @ 10.833826
18 Balochi @ 11.116942
19 Belarusian @ 11.160039
20 Iranian_Jew @ 12.006027

[Petalpusher]

Is this calculator good enough for breaking down Indian ancestry into West and South Eurasian? I still wonder how much Caucasoid Dravidian India would be.

It lacks an Oceanian to split it more correctly. Eventually an Amerindian for others reasons and populations. If had time i would redo this test adding those two, make it a K5, which are really the 5 main ethnic groups on earth.

However this comes close and still the reference imo in this regard. Just that K5 with a SSA split.