Why is it so bad that Spanish is becoming more common in the USA?

[antonio]

At times it's preferable people staying in linguistic guettos: they are a good way of keeping races apart. I would refrain myself this time to resort again to Catalonian case. So, I will just say that USA problem with Spanish it's just a symptom of them simply dont like many of their speakers. Decent Spaniards some (if not many) times repent ourselves of our colonial expansion because of the irreparable damage it caused to our own image as Europeans to the world and the massive chaotic inmigration it brough upon us just of Spanish speakers by that condition.

[Raikaswinþs]

For me is actually awesome.. in terms of the old rivalry btw brits and spaniards , from football to linguistics although I can understand the concern of many english speaking americas... I would feel the same way

[Korbis]

A little. I'm still learning. Did you know that the Arizonan flag was designed with Spanish heritage in mind? It's only irony that Arizonans should be opposed to learning Spanish when their flag was designed with Spain in mind.

Yes, and half of the cities and states of southwestern America have spanish names but that doesn´t mean anything. So what? If a spaniard moves to the US he does it legally and learns English, like any other european. Period. They don´t have nothing in common with that illegal muds flooding into America and please don´t imply otherwise.

If I would be forced to live on a daily basis between beaners in the US ill rather prefer speak to them in english than try to adapt to their lousy dialect, unless they are argentinians or educated caucasian individuals. I think most of my country men would do the same.

[poiuytrewq0987]

At times it's preferable people staying in linguistic guettos: they are a good way of keeping races apart. I would refrain myself this time to resort again to Catalonian case. So, I will just say that USA problem with Spanish it's just a symptom of them simply dont like many of their speakers. Decent Spaniards some (if not many) times repent ourselves of our colonial expansion because of the irreparable damage it caused to our own image as Europeans to the world and the massive chaotic inmigration it brough upon us just of Spanish speakers by that condition.

If I was a Spaniard, I wouldn't see it as anything bad. I would in fact be proud of how dominant my language is. The Spaniards managed to escalate themselves upon the thrones of the very Heaven itself. Spain can easily exert influence in the way Russia is doing to her neighbors. In a way that would ensure Spanish economic dominance in the Americas. Spain's only need is a strong and capable leader. Of course, I am speaking from a Spanish point of view, not necessarily my original point of view in this thread.

[antonio]

If I was a Spaniard, I wouldn't see it as anything bad. I would in fact be proud of how dominant my language is. The Spaniards managed to escalate themselves upon the thrones of the very Heaven itself. Spain can easily exert influence in the way Russia is doing to her neighbors. In a way that would ensure Spanish economic dominance in the Americas. Spain's only need is a strong and capable leader. Of course, I am speaking from a Spanish point of view, not necessarily my original point of view in this thread.

Unfortunatelly the domination and influence you're talking about is not much of the taste of us, because they imply for example, a inmigrant Amerindian flow into Spain instead of, for example, a Slavic one, which, of course, we would prefer big time. Because of we simply cannot take money from them and at sametime reject all their working classes for being not European and hence not so much of our taste. One thing is being third world countries an another is being complete fools.

[Liffrea]

As a linguistic issue it, perhaps, doesn’t matter that much, bilingualism is more common than monolingualism, seventy odd miles from where I live folks speak Welsh and English on a regular basis and readily change between the two.

Yet the question of Spanish speakers isn’t just about language is it? The same as the development of English in England and its spread wasn’t just about the language; there are often deeper racial and political points at stake.

From what I understand many Americans fear the growth of Spanish because it means America is moving away from its core ideals and roots. Many of the characteristics of the typical American were born in the shires of England, not Spain. It may be the case that many Americans no longer care for that heritage, I don’t know you tell me, but it should be understood that this isn’t just about language.

[Debaser11]

Hipocrisy. Since throughout history whites also had emigrated from Europe to look for a better and new life, but they are not supposed to be "victims", even those who didn´t speak english when they arrived and suffered similar discrimination in harsher times (which they managed to overcome).

Uh, NO!!!!!

When my ancestors came to the U.S., they came here LEGALLY and swore an OATH to THIS country and RENOUNCED allegiance to their old country. That's a far cry from Mexicunts coming here and stealing (yes, stealing) every manual labor job imaginable while hoisting up Mexican flags and saying "go back to Europe" and "this is our land, gringo" and demanding Spanish be taught in schools and learned within businesses. They have advocacy groups like La Raza saying they should be given amnesty for doing nothing but breaking the law and then preying on social programs paid for by honest, hard-working Americans. Fuck 'em.

Like Pallamedes said, why do you want Turks and Muslims out of Europe? It's people like you that are the hypocrites (with all due respect), not Americans.

And for the record, my grandparents did learn English and WANTED to learn English and were PROUD to be American (as opposed to just saying they were proud because it's a punchline for a stupid immigration debate). And they had no ESL or racial sensitivity programs involved around the idea of diversity to help them. The Mexicans have shown themselves to be inferior in every way compared to the Europeans. The Mexicans want a better life? Well, they can cry me a river. That's their responsibility, not America's. There're tons of people from other countries that want a better life! Are we supposed to let them all in because of that? Sounds like it according your logic here.

[antonio]

For me is actually awesome.. in terms of the old rivalry btw brits and spaniards , from football to linguistics although I can understand the concern of many english speaking americas... I would feel the same way

Believe me if I say that English vs Spanish idiomatic war gives me a shit, in despite of all the hailing from moronic/progressive Spanish media when our "common language" gains terrain to English on NorthernAmerica. We and Amerindians bulk(excluding elite minorities of Creoules and Whitest Mestizos of course if and only if they dont hate us for their ancestors not ours stole the gold of the poor Indians) simply does not belong to the same team founded by our fucking media and Language Academia. And I have a nice solution to all that shit: split our Castilian Academia from their Spanish ones. Of course they would be free to follow an strict observance of Castilian idiomatic rules, but, anycase, that would be no more of our bussiness.

[Korbis]

Uh, NO!!!!!

When my ancestors came to the U.S., they came here LEGALLY and swore an OATH to THIS country and RENOUNCED allegiance to their old country. That's a far cry from Mexicunts coming here and stealing (yes, stealing) every manual labor job imaginable while hoisting up American flags and demanding Spanish be taught in schools and in learned within businesses. They advocacy groups like La Raza saying they should be given amnesty for doing nothing but breaking the law and then preying on social programs paid for by honest, hard-working Americans. Fuck 'em.

Like Pallamedes said, why do you want Turks and Muslims out of Europe? It's people like you that are the hypocrites, not Americans.

I know man!

I would never hold such an opinion to defend a mestizo.


I meant hipocrisy from Mexicans when they try to convince to the world that the evil gringos and their system just don´t let them integrate. Bearing in mind that a lot of non american and non english speaking people did it sucessfully long before them and in tougher conditions, they don´t really have a valid excuse to justify all the trouble they´re causing.

I´m very sorry you misunderstood me. My bad for not being more specifical.

[Debaser11]

^Sorry about that, then. I DEFINITELY misread now that I'm looking again. Egg on my face. I should have balked a bit when I saw it was you (who I consider to be pretty sensible) that I was responding to in such way. I did find it odd.

"No way Korbis is writing that crap."

My apologies.