Are white americans "that" white?

[Beauvais]

The Huns weren't even Mongoloid they were majority Caucasoid. The level of ignorance on this forum from Eurocentric fucktards like this Melungeon Creole faggot is astounding.

Funny, I never even knew what a Melungeon was until other people pointed it out to me. The majority of Creole's reside around the New Orleans area. White/Black intermixing did not happen in the Acadiana area. To be frank with you, I never even knew there was such a thing as Missourian French either:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_French

[Beauvais]

Haplogroup Q1a is a Caucasoid haplogroup found at its oldest in Eurasia in a steppe population (Afontova Gora) that is West Eurasian and not East Asian shifted.
The spread of haplogroup Q in Eurasia was due entirely to the spread of Indo-Europeans who were white and Caucasoid.

From what I know; Haplogroup Q and Haplogroup N1c are evidently East Asian / Mongoloid.

[Hub Cap]

Yeah, well you don't know shit STEVENS, haplogroup Q1a is not Mongoloid and has nothing to do with haplogroup N. Haplogroup Q got to the Huns from Scythian Caucasoids, who got their Q from Andronovo and the spread of Indo European and Indo Iranic languages.

Even Amerindians with their Q3 have Caucasoid features.




14,000 year old Haplogroup Q in Afontova Gora is closer to Europeans than to East Asians:

First, sampling of Siberian individuals from ∼24–17 ka from the Lake Baikal region (i.e., Mal’ta 1 and Afontova Gora 3) showed that they share a stronger connection to Europeans than to Asians,

Huns got haplogroup Q from Scythians, Huns were also R1a:

A few things of note from the GEDMatch list:

- Two Alanic samples from the Caucasus belonged to Q1a2-YP4000 (now found in Siberia, Poland and Chechnya), Q1a2-L330 (Mongolic/Turkic branch found among the Kazakhs) and R1a-Z93 (S23592, now found among the Poles, Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Kazakhs, Altaians). Previous Alanic samples from the North Caucasus belonged to G2a (probably local Caucasian) and R1a-Z93.

- The Alanic Q1a2-YP4000 is a direct descendant of the Q1a2-YP4004 found in the Bronze Age Glazkov culture in the Baikal region. This clade is also found among modern Tatars. The other Q1a2-L330 was also found in that culture as its YP1102 subclade (found among modern Kazakhs). Hence the Alans were of partial Hunnic descent, despite being an Iranian tribe.

- Sarmatian Huns had R1a-Z93 and Q1a2-YP771 (now found in Slavic Russians and Hungarians).

- Tian Shan Huns carried Q1a1-L715 (now found in the North Caucasus (Kabardins), Poland and Hungary) and Q1b2-YP755 (now found in Pakistan and NW India), but also N1c, R1a-Z93 (YP1456, now found among the Bashkirs, Kyrgyzs and Altaians) and oddly also a number of Middle Easter lineages such as E-V22 (Central Europe, Arabian peninsula, Azerbaijan and NE China near Korea) and L1a1 (Y31213, found in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia)

- Tian Shan Saka predating the Tian Shan Huns already carried R1a-Z93 (Z2125), Q1a2-L330 (the same as in Bronze Age Baikal and in the Caucasian Alans) and J2a1-Y13534 (found in the Middle East, North Africa, South Asia and Western Europe).

- Tagar Scythians possessed R1a-Z93 (Z2125) and Q1a2-L933 lineages. The latter is now found in Kerala (southern tip of India!), Yemen, Georgia, Turkey, Czechia and Britain! Apart from the slightly older Indian sample, all have a TMRCA between 5000 and 6000 years, so probably of Steppic origin. It's amazing how far the Scythians migrated and, above all, how wide their geographic reach was, leaving descendants from southern India to Britain and from Siberia to Yemen. And that's just for Siberian Scythians! (as Q1a2 wasn't found in Central Saka or European Scythians).

- Central Scythians (Saka) belonged to R1a-Z93 (YP1456), Q1b2-YP4500 (same as in Tian Shan Huns) and E-M123 (Y31991, now found in Poland, Bulgaria, Lebanon and Qatar)

- The four XiongNu samples only carried O3 and Palaeolithic branches of R1b (not of Indo-European origin).


Overall the two dominant lineages of the Scythians, Huns and Alans appear to have been Q1a and R1a-Z93. These are the only two haplogroups that constantly show up in every culture from every region and period. There is also surprisingly little difference between the Scythians and the Huns. On the other hand, the XiongNu and Mongols carried completely different haplogroups (C2b, O3 and R1b-L278), which means that the Huns were in fact not of XiongNu/Mongol descent as most people thought, but of almost purely (Altaian) Scythian descent.

What is amazing is that almost all the branches of Y-haplogroup Q1a, except the Amerindian, Scandinavian and Levantine/Jewish ones, have been found among the Huns. I was therefore right in my assumption made about 7-8 years ago that the Huns (and explained in my haplogroup Q page) were the ones who spread most of the Q1a1 and Q1a2 lineages.

[Odin]

[zhaoyun]

Funny, I never even knew what a Melungeon was until other people pointed it out to me. The majority of Creole's reside around the New Orleans area. White/Black intermixing did not happen in the Acadiana area. To be frank with you, I never even knew there was such a thing as Missourian French either:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_French

Well, these are communities of people who only numbered a few tens of thousands at the most. They are largely assimilated now into the surrounding populations, so unless someone had an intrinsic interest in their heritage, they are not going to be widely known.