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    Yes, you're probably right, all these liberal policies have put the Netherlands in the leading position of a drug trafficking country, and a lot of other compromising activities. This is also due to extreme low punishments. In other words: do as you please, you won't suffer serious consequences, moreover feel free to do it again.
    These views originate from the idea, that prohibiting only will cause more criminality, but instead they have made criminality a lot easier for those involved, by lowering the threshold.

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    I found this interesting!
    About 1,500 of the 6,000 hard drug users are of Dutch origin, 1500 are from Surinam, the Netherlands Antilles and Morocco, and about 3,000 are from other countries in Europe, mainly Germany, Italy and England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eburos View Post
    I found this interesting!
    The text dates from 1995. I read that heroin for instance isn't very popular anymore. I guess ecstasy, MDMA and similar substances replaced it. So we could conclude that being a heroin junkie is no longer fashionable.

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    I don't see how legal cannabis necessarily conflicts with right-wing or moderate political ideology. Homosexuality too for that matter.

    Imagine a gay-friendly, cannabis tolerant right wing party. That would be revolutionary.


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    "Despite these measures, the north-western Galicia region remains the top entry point for cocaine into Europe, the BBC's Katya Adler reports."

    "More cocaine is seized here in Spain than in any other country except Colombia and the US - about 44 tonnes last year alone. But that is a drop in the ocean if you think how much lands on Galician soil."

    "On the whole though, Galicians show little sense of urgency. In the run-up to the recent regional election, the drug-trafficking issue was virtually ignored.

    According to Xaquin Fernandez, a Socialist Party MP, Galicians have "other priorities" - especially jobs. "


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eburos View Post
    I found this interesting!
    My solution is this: every country in Europe legalises all drugs and kicks out all non-national drug users and puts all IV-drug users in confinement for HI, hepatitits (etc) testing and if found to be infected: put them somewhere safe. In that way the real hard drug problems are solved and the market can take care of the production (so yes: then quality drugs and being produced and sold here in Europe- really smashing up the druglords in the process) and the problems with drug users will plummet as it will be readily available and cheaper (one could order those apothecaries selling it those note down the names and addresses of those using it) and if you tax it with a excise tax or VAT the care for addicts, needle- exchange points and awareness campaigns for young people can be paid for by the users themselves.

    In this way your hobo's will stop plaguing us as we can still keep the power of the government down and it will diminish crime.


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    They have a tacky image and that is the problem.

    They need to move upmarket. If bars can, so can coffeeshops.

    Surely there must be an example of a nice coffee shop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    They have a tacky image and that is the problem.

    They need to move upmarket. If bars can, so can coffeeshops.

    Surely there must be an example of a nice coffee shop.

    Agreed. If a coffeeshop would be a nice yet expensive lounge where you could hire a bong and drink fine liquors, the best teas or coffee's and smoke fine cannabis or hash while sitting on a nice cushion a couple of meters from a nice little fountain to ease your soul. I think that the experience would be amazing and worth paying for.

    I'd think I would certainly give it a try and there is no shame in admitting it. The biggest problem of coffeeshops are the kind of people that usually attend them and that's why I think that bigger pubs should also sell cannabis.

    Imagine a place like this with gentlemen rather then that scum that attend those coffeeshops today:







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    Groen is probably right, most tourists from almost everywhere hits the Netherlands to smoke a good joint legally in front of cops, how enjoyable ! So if it's about to be banned, they won't come anymore, what will be the point travelling hundreds kilometers to buy weed like in your neighbhorood's local dealer? I've never been to the Netherlands but would love to try that for once.

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    The free availability of hash and marijuana attracts a lot of tourists to the Netherlands, but the new Dutch government has plans to prevent them from buying weed. The politicians claim dope-smoking tourists are responsible for higher levels of crime and other social aggravations.

    The government wants 'coffee shops' - where cannabis is sold - to become private clubs, only accessible to adults residing in the Netherlands. The coffee shop owners suspect that a ban on tourists may be a violation of European law.

    For now, foreign tourists are free to buy weed in Amsterdam. Or as one grinning tourist put it: "It's nice to be here because you are free to do what you want, without restriction. That's something you don't have in other places."

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