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    Anything called "Celtic" is a revival and has other influences. Irish music for instances has had several revivals. Irish music is not the same as Welsh music and today most of the music that is classified Celtic is mostly Irish and Scottish type music. I don't know what Galician music or Spanish music is like but personally I feel folk music should be named after the country i.e. Irish folk music, Galician folk music etc because who really knows what music the Celts had in antiquity.

    Irish music for instance has been quite innovative and as well as the more traditional items such as the fiddle, tin whistle, flute, bodhrán and Uilleann pipes which have been used for centuries people started incorporating the banjo and button accordian into Irish music in the 19th Century. For instance Harp music died out in the 18th Century in Ireland but was revived much later. They now use mandolin, guitar and bouzouki in Irish music.

    Celtic rock for instance is a fusion with rock music and was pioneered in Ireland in the 60s and 70s.

    I know people like Alan Stivell has been very important for Breton music but there is a lot of crossover in "Celtic" music with different artists being influenced by others.


    Up to the 1960’s, Irish music still had as its main setting the houses and pubs of rural areas, and music was played mainly to be danced to. It was not until Sean O’Riada’s involvement in the tradition that the music found a wider audience. O’Riada had a wide knowledge of Western Art Music and while working as a music lecturer at University College Cork, he became aware of Irish traditional music. As his interest in it grew he began to explore it in greater depth. He set up a band of traditional musicians in the early 1960’s called Ceoltoiri Chualann, with the aim of creating a new music built on the tradtition. He made use of many Classical music forms within the workings of the band which was made up of fiddle, flute, uilleann pipes, accordion and bodhran, and came up with a formula of playing solos within the group. His music was played to be listened to and not danced to, thus bringing the musc across a social divide. It was no longer associated solely with rural areas and poverty. When Ceoltoiri Chualann performed their first concert, it did not take place in a public house or a concert hall but in the grandeur of the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin. O’Riada created the concept of an Irish music ensemble, which gave rise to the whole idea of arranging the music.
    https://www.musicalpubcrawl.com/story-of-irish-music

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    We Spaniards have a great Celtic genetic and cultural heritage, and we have the right to claim it. However, there is a certain "wannabism" in this claim of the Celtic, especially in the musical. Musical groups such as Luar na Lubre, Llan de Cubel or Cahórnega, who claim to interpret traditional music, are characterized by their enormous Irish and Scottish influences, quite far from the traditional sound that characterizes the music of northern Spain.

    A musical group far from foreign influences is Urze de Lume, who plays both traditional and traditional songs of the peninsular northwest without trying to resemble Irish and Scottish music:


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post
    We Spaniards have a great Celtic genetic and cultural heritage, and we have the right to claim it. However, there is a certain "wannabism" in this claim of the Celtic, especially in the musical. Musical groups such as Luar na Lubre, Llan de Cubel or Cahórnega, who claim to interpret traditional music, are characterized by their enormous Irish and Scottish influences, quite far from the traditional sound that characterizes the music of northern Spain.

    A musical group far from foreign influences is Urze de Lume, who plays both traditional and traditional songs of the peninsular northwest without trying to resemble Irish and Scottish music:

    Yes that was the point I was making. There is no pan Celtic music so if it sounds "Celtic" it has influences mostly from Irish tradition. Even in places like Ireland there has been various revivals and the type of music has changed. This isn't the music that Celts played 2000 years ago. All the Celtic music I hear no matter from what country sounds like a copy of Irish bands like the Chieftains but Alan Stivell from Brittany has been a big influence in this type of music. All this music is just folk and calling it Celtic is just trying to make it more pan-European.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_music

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    Another great Spanish group that play Neo-Folk music inspired by pre-Roman Celtiberian traditions is Keltika Hispanna:

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    70% of Iberian ancestry is Celtiberian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post

    If this isnt Celtic, I dont know what it is.

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    Just to clarify, Urze de Lume is a Portuguese band not Spanish. Here is another folk group from Portugal:

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