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    http://culture.pl/en/article/the-tru...s-polish-roots

    The Truth behind Christopher Columbus’s Polish Roots
    2016/09/02


    Manuel Rosa, a Portuguese historian, claims that the man who discovered America was not of Genoese origin as is commonly believed, but descended from a Polish King. Culture.pl investigates his hypothesis.

    The twelve-toed king

    It is told that 15th-century Polish King Władysław III had six toes on each foot. He was also the son of the great Polish king Władysław Jagiełło, who defeated the Teutonic Order in the famous battle of Grunwald, and ruled over a mighty empire that ranged from the Baltic to the Black Sea. He ascended the Polish throne in 1434 and received Hungarian crown in 1440 to boot. As King of Hungary he waged war against the Ottoman Empire and died, at the age of 20, in the 1444 Battle of Varna, a crucial episode of the conflict. The fight was lost by the Hungarians and their allies and the king himself was slain on the field after leading a charge into the enemy’s ranks. However, the ruler’s body was never formally identified, a strange occurrence considering his unusual feet. This led to speculation that the monarch actually survived and that the accounts and stories about his death were untrue. According to some, after the lost battle the baffled king travelled to the Portuguese island of Madeira in the Atlantic Ocean, where he lived incognito as Henrique Alemao (Henry the German) for the rest of his days.

    Portuguese historian Manuel Rosa supports the abovementioned hypothesis. Moreover, he maintains that after the battle the Polish king not only came to Madeira but also had a son, Christopher Columbus. That’s right. After over 20 years of extensive research, Rosa, an employee of Duke University, is dead certain that the great navigator was of royal Polish descent. Fluent in many languages, the historian studied countless accounts and documents about Columbus written in Spanish, Portuguese, English and Italian before he published this revelation in a book entitled Columbus ‒ The Untold Story. Interestingly, his dubious-sounding claim has some pretty substantial backing …

    A golden double cross

    Let’s break down the main arguments used by Rosa to support his theory that America’s discoverer was in fact the son of the Polish king Władysław III. First, he points out physical resemblance. (Look at the portraits above and judge for yourself.) Historic descriptions of the two point out similarities in their countenances. Additionally, Rosa found that Columbus’ original coat of arms had gold anchors on a blue background. It just so happens that Segismundo Henriques, son of Henrique Alemao (who did actually live in Madeira, beyond any doubt), also had a coat of arms with gold anchors on a blue background. And here the plot thickens: rulers of the House of Jagiełło, Władysław III among them, used a golden double cross on a blue background as their coat of arms, a symbol which closely resembles Columbus’s anchors very easily.

    It is also worth noting that in the 16th century the descendants of Henrique Alemao were officially acknowledged by the Spanish royal court being descended from royal Polish lineage. This coincides nicely with a 1472 letter sent by a Franciscan monk from Portugal to the grand master of the Teutonic Order, in which the author writes that he’s seen Władysław III on Madeira. Two other monks, who were sent to Madeira from Poland, claimed they recognized the king in Alemao. One might add that in Portugal the term ‘Alemao’ (German) was once applied to members of all peoples from beyond the Rhine, including Poles.

    A Madeira native

    Why would Władysław III want to live incognito in Madeira, and be Henrique Alemao the humble knight, and not in Central Europe, where he would be king? Rosa postulates that he simply became disenchanted with ruling after being defeated by the Ottomans, and longed for a different life. As the king of a mighty state, he would have had to go through much hardship after his abdication, hence the elaborate scheme. In this version of events Columbus protected his father’s privacy by concealing his own background, of which he was probably aware.

    Rosa’s theory, although exotic, helps explain certain facts from Columbus’ life. Namely, his marriage to a Portuguese aristocrat which occurred long before he became famous for discovering America, his receiving of a broad education that enabled him to become an expert navigator, and his residing in Madeira for some time, near Alemao’s palace. The first two events would have been unlikely to befall a simple weaver’s son from Genoa. On the other hand, they very well could have, for a man of royal descent. Additionally, Rosa believes that the Portuguese court was privy to the secret of Alemao’s identity and supported both him and his son, Columbus.

    All in all, Rosa presents a strong case for Columbus’s Polishness.

    Author: Marek Kępa, August 2016.
    Check also this book review:

    https://indiereader.com/2016/10/lear...-untold-story/

    They mention that a DNA investigation is planned. It should be pretty easy to distinguish a Jagiellonian descendant from a son of an Italian craftsman, both based on autosomal DNA and on Y-DNA.
    Last edited by Peterski; 01-18-2017 at 07:54 AM.

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    Cristoforo Colombo, was from Genoa Italy born and raised.

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    https://wpolityce.pl/historia/352393...zka-na-azorach

    But firstly they should at least tested Casimir Andrew.
    If he wasn't Gediminid, then Warneńczyk also could not be.
    And if results of this guy would be different than Gediminids
    but the same as Casimir's, then it could be prove that they
    have the same father. But then it would be not know, if the
    Sophia had reletions with one lover across the years, of just
    Yagiełło was nota Gedyminid either...

    Kapitan Carlos Borges, będący potomkiem Władysława III zwanego też Warneńczykiem, mieszka na Azorach

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    Kapitan Carlos Borges, będący potomkiem Władysława III zwanego też Warneńczykiem, mieszka na Azorach. Do jego odnalezienia przyczynił się mieszkający w Chicago kapitan Andrzej Piotrowski.

    O królu Władysławie zamieszkującym na portugalskiej wyspie Maderze dowiedziałem się przed laty w Funchal, od dyrektora biura Radia Wolna Europa w Londynie doktora Leopolda Kielanowskiego. Poświęcił tej sprawie Kielanowski kilka audycji radiowych RWE, zanim ostatecznie ukazała się w Londynie w roku 1991 jego książka zatytułowana Odyseja Władysława Warneńczyka. Książka nigdy nie wydana w Polsce, choć wydana także po śmierci autora w języku portugalskim. Pisał o tym krakowski pisarz Zbigniew Swięch w książce Klątwy, Mikroby i Uczeni, ale badacze historii w niezrozumiały sposób i tę książkę przemilczeli. Sprawa ta zapoczątkowana przez Kielanowskiego nie dawała spokoju do czasu, kiedy przed paru laty światowej sławy mieszkający w Chicago założyciel Karaibskiej Republiki Żeglarskiej kapitan Andrzej Piotrowski nie powiedział mi, że będąc jachtem na Azorach spotkał się z kapitanem Carlosem Borgesem będącym potomkiem króla Władysława III, którego obraz z XV wieku zatytułowany Encontro de S. Joaquim e Santa Ana junto da Porta Dourada znajduje się w Museu de Arte Sacra do Funchal na Maderze.

    O tym, że potomkowie polskiego króla, który rzekomo zginął w bitwie pod Warną w roku 1444, przenieśli się z Madery na Azory, wiedziałem od Leopolda Kielanowskiego. Potem zelektryzował świat - wiadomość powtórzyły agencje prasowe od Nowego Jorku po Moskwę - artykuł “The Daily Telegraph” z 28 listopada 2010 roku dostępny do dziś w internecie, a dotyczący książki jaka wydana została w Hiszpanii: Colon. Historia Nunca Contada. Jej autorem był mieszkający w Północnej Karolinie, ale urodzony na Azorach, amerykański pisarz Manuel Rosa. Nie zastanawiając się wsiadłem w samochód i ruszyłem do Północnej Karoliny. Przed paru laty książka Manuela ukazała się w Polsce nakładem poznańskiego wydawnictwa REBIS. Byłem autorem jej przedmowy.

    Nie jednak rewelacje Manuela Rosy były dla mnie ważne, ale to, co przed laty przekazał Kielanowski. Kiedy spotkałem kapitana Andrzeja Piotrowskiego nie miałem wątpliwości, że muszę pojechać na Azory. Stało się to w czerwcu tegoż roku. Punktem zwrotnym było spotkanie z kapitanem Carlosem Borgesem, który przyjechał z Terceiry do Ponta Delgada, żeby się ze mną spotkać. Odebrałem go z lotniska imienia Jana Pawła II-go i prosto stamtąd ruszyliśmy do archiwów uniwersyteckich, gdzie poczęto znosić nam pożółkłe sterty dokumentów odsłaniających przeszłość rodu Borgesów. Z Madery na Azory przewędrowali w XVIII wieku. Przodkowie Carlosa byli, podobnie jak i on, prawie wszyscy bez wyjątku kapitanami. W XIX wieku przede wszystkim statków wielorybniczych. Kapitan Carlos Borges jest postacią twardo chodzącą po gruncie faktów. Sceptyczny wobec wielu ustaleń Manuela Rosy, stał się żywą zagadką dla kogoś takiego jak ja, który zajmuje się tą historią od blisko 40 lat.

    Kopie dokumentów pisanych w staroportugalskim, które przywiozłem z Azorów, odesłane teraz będą do Brazylii do mego przyjaciela, tłumacza poezji Fernando Pessoa na polski i profesora literatury porównawczej, Henryka Siewierskiego. Materiał genetyczny na który czekam od Carlosa, odesłany będzie do przyjaciółki z Pensylwanii, pani profesor, która jest specjalistką w sprawach DNA. Wszystko to zabierze sporo czasu, ale przypuszczalnie sprawa, która w roku 2012 sygnalizowana była przez serwis PAP poświęcony polskiej nauce, znajdzie odpowiedź. Odpowiedź, którą jako życzenie składam sam sobie na 65-te urodziny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    https://wpolityce.pl/historia/352393...zka-na-azorach

    But firstly they should at least tested Casimir Andrew.
    If he wasn't Gediminid, then Warneńczyk also could not be.
    And if results of this guy would be different than Gediminids
    but the same as Casimir's, then it could be prove that they
    have the same father. But then it would be not know, if the
    Sophia had reletions with one lover across the years, of just
    Yagiełło was nota Gedyminid either...
    Vladislovas Varnietis had 6 toes so he was without a doubt a Latvian.

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    It is told that 15th-century Polish King Władysław III had six toes on each foot. He was also the son of the great Polish king Władysław Jagiełło, who defeated the Teutonic Order in the famous battle of Grunwald, and ruled over a mighty empire that ranged from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
    This is simply wrong. Jagiello was not Polish king. He was Lithuanian Pagan King who later was crowned King of Poland too, after "converting" to Catholicism.

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    Columbus a Pole...in other words Fake News.

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