The Crusades were not "Christian wars"...they were race wars by the White Europeans

[Böri]

Turks haven't lost anything, but all have gained a lot.

We all learned a lot from all of those people who were among us.

That's how Ottoman Empire worked from 1453 - 1921 and everyone loved it.

No. We hated it.
Even Ottoman monarchs starting from the 19th century understood the shit it was, since they started huge reform (Tanzimat) processes, aiming to strengthen Turks and the central power. Turkish finally made official language in 1870s.
But that wasn't enough for the dynasty to stay there.

We lost everything we had for the mania of becoming an empire.
Then ship started to take water.
Everyone left, Turks were drowned.
In the end we had an ignorant folk, poor and backward.
That was result.

Same mistake won't be repeated.

[Krivich]

They became so demanding of Turks because of your genocidal Serbian brothers.
They were all living in a Communist Tito paradise.
It was good old days when these Balkanians were calling us ''Mongol Asian Turks''
Then, with Western interference, Croats and Slovenes left the ship.
Serbs got mad and started to slay everyone.

Muslim Balkanians entered a psychological and identitarian crisis. Some tv series like Magnificient Century (showing glorious Janissaries or the intrigues of a Ukrainian wife) just added fuel to fire.
Some of these guys, like this Bosniensis, reached that level of shamelessness.
Sometimes we are tired.

For me, the Serb is always right, even if he's wrong. You have to accept this.

[Böri]

For me, the Serb is always right, even if he's wrong. You have to accept this.

Halelujah

[Krivich]

Turks were steppe people, horse raiders... they lived in tents and slept with horses.

Ottoman Empire was a mutual project of turks, greeks and slavs (without greeks and slavs) it would never be successful.

Modern Turkish Ultra-Nationalism wants to present it as "Turan Empire".

Russians adopted advanced Imperial Feudalism in 16th century, do you really think that TURKS had Imperial Feudalism in 1453?

Those were Islamized Greeks and Balkan people who mixed with Turks and created that Ottoman Empire.

In Ottoman Empire: Turkish; Greek and Serbian were used extensively across the empire and there was multiple official , co-official languages

Ottoman Empire was not a STATE it was AN EMPIRE something that Bori doesn't understand obviously.

Both Greeks and Slavs in the Ottoman Empire were subordinate peoples. Russia has also had a Mongolian yoke for 300 years, which does not make us inheritors of The Golden Horde.

[Bosniensis]

Both Greeks and Slavs in the Ottoman Empire were subordinate peoples. Russia has also had a Mongolian yoke for 300 years, which does not make us inheritors of The Golden Horde.

Well here was the opposite, we ruled I can name you many but I am on the phone atm.


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[Krivich]

Halelujah

She's beautiful. You like her?

[Terminus88]

...after long research into this, I come to the conclusion that the Crusades were just a racial war masquarading as a holy religious war (no other Christian group participated in it except the Europeans...the Byzantines and dhimmi Christians regretted it, just like Assyrians regret the war on Iraq today).

Discuss...

You are bias and ignorant because your entire thread is nothing buy a fantasy. A lot of the MiddleEast was converted peacefully to Christianity, then Islamic expansion with their arab religion from Arabia came along. The Crusades were defensive wars.



You are wrong.