German Death Camps

[Szegedist]

I learnt on TA from Litvin and Rethel that Poles are Germans (and Germans are Poles), also Poles descent from Germans. Merkel is Polish and Hitler was Polish too. So what's the problem ?

[Ülev]

für mich es ist kein Problem

[Melki]

What can I say...

I would be happy if someone put a plastic bag in order to make you suffocate to death...

[Melki]

Just ignore this idiot, the only thing he does here is flooding the forum with his bullshit without even bothering to respond.

I heard yesterfay about some another problems with this subject, but don't know what happened.

What do you mean?

Talking about PHDNM/Vincent Reynouard?

[Szegedist]

What can I say...

I would be happy if someone put a plastic bag in order to make you suffocate to death...

Too bad there were no French camps...

[Melki]

Too bad there were no French camps...

Fuck your mom

[Szegedist]

Fuck your mom

This was one of the German biggest mistakes, being very kind on the French while repressive against Poles. The few decent Frenchmen died in Berlin 1945.

[PHDNM]

‘Holocaust’ Propaganda

The masses are most easily fooled through manipulation of images. With the liberation of the German concentration camps in April 1945, British and American journalists rushed to photograph and film true horrors that were then, one may say, made into truer than life horrors. In the language dear to media people, the public was presented with a “put-up” job.30

On the one hand, we were shown real dead bodies as well as real crematories, and, on the other hand, thanks to some misleading comments and a cinematic staging, a deft artifice was effected. I describe this fraud with a phrase that may serve to help unmask all such impostures: We were led to take the dead for killed, and crematories for execution gas chambers.

Thus was born the confusion, still so widespread today, between, on the one hand, the crematories, which actually existed (but not at Bergen-Belsen) for the incineration of corpses and, on the other hand, the Nazi gas chambers allegedly used to kill whole crowds of men and women, but which, in reality, never existed nor could have existed.

The myth of the Nazi gas chambers and their association with the crematories originated, in its media form, in the press and newsreel photographs and media commentary from the Bergen-Belsen camp – which, orthodox historians now admit, possessed neither mass-execution gas chambers nor even simple crematories.

At Bergen-Belsen, the British Introduce the ‘Nazi Crime’ Media Spectacle

Situated near Hannover, Bergen-Belsen was originally established as a camp for wounded soldiers. In 1943 it became a detention center for European Jews who were to be exchanged for German civilians held by the Allies. In the middle of the war, Jews were transferred from that camp to Switzerland or, by way of Turkey, even to Palestine (yet another proof, as may be pointed out in passing, of the absence of an extermination program).

Until the end of 1944, conditions for inmates at Bergen-Belsen were about normal: then, along with a convoy of deportees brought from regions in the East facing the imminent Soviet onslaught, there arrived epidemics of dysentery, cholera, and exanthematic typhus. The resulting disaster was aggravated by the Anglo-American bombing raids that severely hampered deliveries of medicine, food, and – most devastating of all – water. The rail transports of Jews from the East no longer took just two or three days to reach the camp, but rather one or two weeks. Because of Allied air bombardment and strafing, the trains could proceed only at night. As a result, the trains arrived containing only dead and dying, or exhausted men and women unfit to withstand such epidemics. On March 1st, 1945, camp commandant Josef Kramer sent a letter to General Richard Glücks, chief of concentration camp administration, in which he described this “catastrophe” in detail, concluding with the plea: “I implore your help in overcoming this situation.”

Germany, on its last legs, could no longer deal with the influx of its own eastern refugees arriving by the millions. It could no longer manage to supply its army with weapons and ammunition, or its population with food.

Finally, it could no longer remedy the tragic conditions in camps where even guards were dying of typhus. Himmler authorized Wehrmacht officers to establish contact with the British to warn them that they were approaching, in their advance, a frightful den of infection. Negotiations followed. A wide truce area was declared around Bergen-Belsen, and British and German soldiers decided, by mutual consent, to share the task of camp surveillance.

But what they found in the camp, including barracks and tents flooded with excrement, and the unbearable odor of decomposing bodies, quickly had the British feeling indignant. They came to believe, or were allowed to believe, that the SS had deliberately chosen to kill the inmates or to let them die. And, despite their own best efforts, the British were unable to curb the terrible mortality rate.

Then, like a swarm of vultures, journalists swooped down on the camp, filming and photographing every possible horror. They also proceeded to arrange certain scenes of their own making: a famous one, shown for example in the film “Night and Fog,” is that of a bulldozer pushing corpses into a large pit. Many viewers have been led to believe that they are seeing “German bulldozers.”

They didn’t notice that the bulldozer (just one) is driven by a British soldier who, doubtless after a body count, is pushing the corpses into a large trench that had been dug after the camp’s liberation. The Jew Sydney Lewis Bernstein, London head of the Home Office cinema section, called on Alfred Hitchcock to make a film on these “Nazi atrocities.” Hitchcock accepted, but, in the end, only fragments of his film were made public, probably because the complete version contained assertions that might cast doubt on its authenticity.

On the whole, the “shock of Bergen-Belsen” was a great success for Allied propaganda. In every possible way, the media exploited it to show dead and dying camp inmates to the world at large, but while at the same time leading viewers, through commentary, to think that these inmates had been killed, murdered, or exterminated, or else were walking corpses condemned to perish as victims of killing, murder, or extermination. Thus, on the basis of the ghastly conditions in a camp that, as already noted, had neither crematories nor (as conventional historians acknowledge) any homicidal gas chamber, was built the general myth of the existence and use, at Auschwitz and elsewhere, of “gas chambers” coupled with crematories.

Among the most famous casualties of epidemics in that camp were Anne Frank and her sister Margot who, for nearly 40 years, were widely and persistently said to have been gassed at Auschwitz (from where, in fact, they had been brought), or killed at Bergen-Belsen. Today, it is generally conceded that they died of typhus at Bergen-Belsen in February–March 1945.

The “shock of Bergen-Belsen” was very quickly imitated by the Americans who, turning to Hollywood, shot a series of motion pictures on the liberation of the German camps. After editing the extensive footage (6,000 feet of film, of a total of 80,000), they produced a film that was shown on November 29, 1945, at the Nuremberg trial. Everyone, including most of the defendants, found it quite disturbing. A few of the defendants sensed the deceit, but it was too late: the great lie’s bulldozer had been set in motion. It is still running today. The viewers of all the many horror films on the “Nazi camps” have, over time, been conditioned by the choice of images and the commentary. A section of wall, a heap of shoes, a smokestack: it has taken no more than these for the public to believe that they have seen a chemical slaughterhouse.

Fifty-two years after the liberation of the Bergen-Belsen camp, Maurice Druon, secrétaire perpétuel of the Académie française, testified at the trial of Maurice Papon, accused of “collaboration” in the “Final Solution.” Here is an extract of his deposition mentioning gas chambers at that camp (which, as all historians today acknowledge, had none), the famous bulldozer, and the “hair shorn from the dead to help make some ersatz or other”:

When speaking today of the camps, one has in one’s eyes, and the jurors present have in their eyes, those horrid images that the films and the screens offered and offer to us; and it is quite right to do so [that is, to show them], and they ought to be re-shown each year to every secondary school graduating class. But those images, of the gas chambers, of the mounds of hair shorn from the dead to help make some ersatz or other, of those children playing among the corpses, and of those bodies so great in number that they had to be pushed into a pit by a bulldozer, and of those troops of skeletons, staggering and haggard, in striped pajamas, with death in their eyes, those images, and I hereby bear witness, I was, in my modest capacity of information officer, one of the 20 Allied officers to “view” them first, when the uncut footage, as it is called, arrived just after the liberation of Bergen-Belsen by the English. But that was in the spring of 1945. Until then, no one knew. – We must not judge with our trained eyes [sic] of today, but with our blind eyes of yesterday.

Maurice Druon, in reality, had “trained eyes” yesterday and has “blind eyes” today. More than 50 years of propaganda have blinded him. But already during the war, were not he and his uncle Joseph Kessel, both Jewish, blinded by their hatred of the German soldiers when they wrote the atrocious “Partisans’ Song,” which includes the exhortation “Killers by bullet and by knife, kill quickly!”?

http://vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/19/1/Faurisson2.html

[Melki]

This was one of the German biggest mistakes, being very kind on the French while repressive against Poles. The few decent Frenchmen died in Berlin 1945.

I'll just make sure to piss you off even more, I don't want you to come to my country. We had Sarkozy, we don't want more Hungarian scumbags in our country. Stay in your tiny landlocked country situated in the middle of nowhere, loser.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I think it's barbaric and tragic what the criminal German Nazi thugs did to innocent Polish people. It's extremely cruel and sad and totally inhumane what happened to them. Wild animals don't even do that to people. The Germans had no right to take over Poland and dictate to the Polish people, as Poland is not the German peoples country.

I've never thought of concentration camps as being 'Polish' though. I know about the British concentration camps that were around during the imperial British Empire era when the German-descent parasitic Queen/Empress Victoria Saxe-Coberg Goth of Hanover took over Great Britain and she ruled as Queen and Empress over many nations, and took Celtic Irish people, Africans, Indians, Amerindians, Aboriginal Australians, etc, as slaves, and brutally tortured them, killed millions of non-white people, stole their resources and land, etc,.... out of greed for the elite. What they did was criminal theft and mass-murder and it was not a civilised way to treat other human beings.

...and then German Nazi concentration camps followed when the Germans copied the British aristocracy and the Germans attempted to have an empire as they also wanted to rule the world and take over other peoples countries. They had the nerve and the cheek to rudely walk univited into France and Poland and barged-in to take over their countries. That's like rudely walking into somebody elses home univited and deciding to take over. The Nazis killed millions of Europeans... and 20 million Russians were killed fighting against the Nazis in WW2. It's diabolical!

I've never personally heard anyone ever say 'Polish death camps.' (Maybe if they say that, they're referring to the death camps being located in Poland and on Polish soil - or they may be referring to the Polish victims of the death camps... ... even though they're most likely aware the camps were run by the bullying German Nazi criminal thugs.)

I can understand how frustrating it must be for Polish people if a person was to say 'Polish death camps.' I think those pictures posted by the OP are good and let's wish it will help to end any ignorance about who was operating and running the death camps.

Do they still keep those unsightly German Nazi death camps in Poland as memorial sites? If they do, then surely that must be so depressing for Polish people to see a constant visual reminder of their ancestors being bullied, tortured, and murdered. Can't they have memorial sites such as flowers planted for the victims in a quiet place elsewhere... and knock those death camp buildings down on Polish soil and create something more pleasant to look at over the land instead?