The oldest known White person lived 11,000 years ago in Ukraine

[Proto-Shaman]

You checked wrong, early IE's and PIE's are extremly high ANE comparing to any modern population.

then you have mistoken them for IE, because such IE's never existed. You fetish. They were corded-related Turks.

[Proto-Shaman]

Does anybody has autosomal data for this guy here? Would like to know how "mongoloid" he really was.

[Peterski]

More Y-DNA haplogroups:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...storic-Ukraine

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2017...a-and-ukraine/

Ukraine_HG1 (this is a man, not a woman) is I2a2a-M223
Ukraine_N1 (Dnieper-Donets culture) is R1a1-M459*
Latvia_MN1 is R1b1a1a-P297 (3rd R1b from Latvia)

So we have the first R1a in Western Steppe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dniepe...Donets_culture

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I2a2a was also found much later in Catacomb culture.

[Proto-Shaman]

More Y-DNA haplogroups:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...storic-Ukraine

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2017...a-and-ukraine/

Ukraine_HG1 (this is a man, not a woman) is I2a2a-M223
Ukraine_N1 (Dnieper-Donets culture) is R1a1-M459*
Latvia_MN1 is R1b1a1a-P297 (3rd R1b from Latvia)

So we have the first R1a in Western Steppe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dniepe...Donets_culture

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I2a2a was also found much later in Catacomb culture.

do we have facial reconstruction?

[johen]

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I2a2a was also found much later in Catacomb culture.

I think this guy had a beautiful mom, who attracted R1b beast.

[Nurzat]

The oldest known White person lived 11,000 years ago in Ukraine

funnily, 11k years later Ukrainians still don't look White, but Balkanic, hehe

[johen]

Does anybody has autosomal data for this guy here? Would like to know how "mongoloid" he really was.

I think nobody care about small numbers of mongolids among 100 Karelian samples

[Proto-Shaman]

I think nobody care about small numbers of mongolids among 100 Karelian samples

too bad that all those ancient R carriers were more of less "mongoloid"

[Pahli]

too bad that all those ancient R carriers were more of less "mongoloid"

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 32.06
2 Samoedic 14.59
3 North-Amerind 13.6
4 Indian 11.62
5 Indo-Iranian 8.89
6 Mesoamerican 7.47
7 West-Asian 5.02
8 North-European-Mesolithic 3.6
9 South-America_Amerind 2.14
10 Arctic-Amerind 0.81
11 Sub-Saharian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Udmurd (derived) 24.08
2 Mari (derived) 24.73
3 Chuvash (derived) 24.81
4 Aleut (derived) 24.94
5 Tatar (derived) 25.02
6 Mansi (derived) 26.94
7 Bashkir (derived) 27.15
8 Komi (derived) 27.44
9 Tatar_Kryashen (derived) 28.51
10 Tatar_Lithuania (derived) 29.21
11 Tartar_Mishar (derived) 29.78
12 Colville (derived) 33.73
13 Miwok (derived) 34.24
14 Tsimsian (derived) 34.3
15 Mordovian (derived) 35.94
16 Ste7 (derived) 36.72
17 Mordovian_V (derived) 36.87
18 Russian_North (derived) 37.1
19 Tadjik (derived) 37.33
20 Shor (derived) 37.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Chuvash (derived) + 26.1% Navajo (derived) @ 14.72
2 71.6% Udmurd (derived) + 28.4% Apache (derived) @ 15.17
3 75.1% Udmurd (derived) + 24.9% Navajo (derived) @ 15.22
4 70.7% Chuvash (derived) + 29.3% Apache (derived) @ 15.3
5 70.9% Mari (derived) + 29.1% Apache (derived) @ 15.41
6 71.3% Komi (derived) + 28.7% Navajo (derived) @ 15.49
7 66.5% Udmurd (derived) + 33.5% Haida (derived) @ 15.58
8 74.6% Mari (derived) + 25.4% Navajo (derived) @ 15.62
9 75.4% Udmurd (derived) + 24.6% Tlingit (derived) @ 15.85
10 65.8% Mari (derived) + 34.2% Haida (derived) @ 16.02
11 67.9% Komi (derived) + 32.1% Apache (derived) @ 16.27
12 74.8% Chuvash (derived) + 25.2% Tlingit (derived) @ 16.32
13 75.1% Mari (derived) + 24.9% Tlingit (derived) @ 16.56
14 75.5% Chuvash (derived) + 24.5% Luiseno (derived) @ 16.64
15 66.2% Chuvash (derived) + 33.8% Haida (derived) @ 16.72
16 75.1% Tatar (derived) + 24.9% Navajo (derived) @ 16.8
17 80.6% Udmurd (derived) + 19.4% Athabask (derived) @ 16.88
18 63.5% Udmurd (derived) + 36.5% Tsimsian (derived) @ 16.94
19 69% Mansi (derived) + 31% Apache (derived) @ 17.05
20 72.8% Mansi (derived) + 27.2% Navajo (derived) @ 17.06

Mal'ta boy was partly Mongoloid, but not fully as you can see he also has West Eurasian admixture.

[Ülev]

too bad that all those ancient R carriers were more of less "mongoloid"

I have to quote my own post from "Slavic as fuck" thread, lol

Andrey Bogolyubsky - Version politically correct


- The true face, Rus (White Ruthenia) XII century

http://slowianolubia.blogspot.com/20...ad-sowian.html