The oldest known White person lived 11,000 years ago in Ukraine

[Rethel]

Also that map doesn't mention that EHG in Russia were light, and lighter than Motala.

And according to Genetiker, Motala has an eastern IE-like admixture.

[XenophobicPrussian]

This.
There are still light pigmentation genes that are not discovered. For example, according to one research, 10% of Orcadians are dark-skinned, despite the fact that they (together with Irish) are lightest-skinned men on Earth. They also have "less blue-eye genes" than Italians, which is extremely laughable.

Physical anthropology is clear on this matter: western Upper Palaeolithic/Mesolithic types (Borreby, Brunn, etc.) are lightest-skinned European types.

Look at these dark skinned Yakuts!



They just found a new SNP that contributes to light skin differences within South Asians too.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Xenophobiczny Prusaku, do you really want to make a TA's record in selfhateress and following it in theory's bizzarness???

[Rethel]

Look at these dark skinned Yakuts!

They are not white. They are yellowish. It is enaugh
a little of sun, and they are going dark. Even in the
winter when you compare them to whites, they seem
be yellowish/swarthy whatever. Make some mongolian
friends and observe them, and you'll see yourself.

[Peterski]

Native Americans and North-Western Europeans in Gedrosia K6 calculator:

Native Americans:

NA42 ancient Peru 1000-1500 AD:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 72.22
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.62
3 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 9.16

MARC1492 Mi'kmaq 1550-1700 AD:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 62.05
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 26.07
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 5.36
4 Natufian 3.6
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.6
6 Sub_Saharan 0.33

Paleo-Eskimo Saqqaq ca. 2000 BC:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 76.08
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 10.91
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 6.09
4 Sub_Saharan 3.06
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.66
6 Natufian 1.2

Clovis Anzick-1 Montana 10700-10550 BC:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 60.7
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 23.77
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 8.54
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 5.84
5 Sub_Saharan 1.16

Kennewick Man USA 7000-6900 BC:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 58.83
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.52
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 11.66
4 Natufian 3.23
5 Sub_Saharan 3.08
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.68

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North-Western Europeans:

Modern Scottish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.13
2 Natufian 32.90
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.78
4 East_Asian 1.23

Modern Scottish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.12
2 Natufian 34.23
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.99
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.94
5 East_Asian 1.73

Modern North Dutch:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.75
2 Natufian 35.9
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.07
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.15
5 Sub_Saharan 0.14

Modern English:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.61
2 Natufian 36.62
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.84
4 East_Asian 1.41
5 Sub_Saharan 1.14
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.38

Modern Swedish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 46.24
2 Natufian 33.38
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.13
4 East_Asian 2.25

Modern Irish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.1
2 Natufian 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.8
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.72
5 East_Asian 0.8

Rathlin-1 Ireland 2030-1880 BC:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.39
2 Natufian 29.8
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.68
4 Sub_Saharan 2.27
5 East_Asian 1.86

Hinxton-1 Britain 160 BC - 25 AD:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 45.16
2 Natufian 35
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.84

Hinxton-4 Britain 170 BC - 80 AD:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 45.11
2 Natufian 33.9
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.27
4 East_Asian 1.72

[JBoscherville]

'White' people didn't appear til the 16th/17th century. So no.

[Rethel]

'White' people didn't appear til the 16th/17th century. So no.

So what?

[Peterski]

'White' people didn't appear til the 16th/17th century.

LOL

[Peterski]

'White' people didn't appear til the 16th/17th century.

And gravitation did not appear before 1687 AD. Earth also used to be flat in the past.

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

Isn't Gedrosia K6 giving really low WHG admixture? Gedrosia's calculators all kinda lack consistency compared to the numbers that come out of the papers...

It would be awesome if we could use the new Eurogenes K7 that Polako made, but it isn't on gedmatch and it's not free :\ I think the Eurogenes_ANE K7 on gedmatch, while a bit more outdated than the new K7, gives more accurate percentages.

Edit: The old K7 has the problem of sucking some ANE and ENF into WHG tho.

Scot with Gedrosia K6:

Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.91
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.17
East_Asian 1.26
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 45.28
Natufian 34.38

Same Scot with old K7:

ANE 16.17
ASE 2.92
WHG-UHG 63.80
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.44
East_African 0.80
ENF 15.87

Scot average new K7:

Ancient_North_Eurasian 17.04
Basal-rich 25.4766667
East_Eurasian 0.13
Oceanian 0.0033333
Southeast_Asian 0.39
Sub-Saharan 0
Villabruna-related 56.9633333