Wikileaks: Between 2003 and 2009 109,032 deaths in Iraq

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-23-2010, 03:04 PM

Wikileaks: Between 2003 and 2009 109,032 deaths in Iraq

At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivallent population size.

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**Psychonaut** · 10-23-2010, 05:36 PM

**poiuytrewq0987** · 10-25-2010, 11:48 PM

What is the official death count told to us and this?

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-26-2010, 12:17 AM

I'm still waiting...

**Sol Invictus** · 10-26-2010, 03:01 AM

October 19, 2010 | IPS News

New information on the Central Intelligence Agency’s campaign of drone strikes in northwest Pakistan directly contradicts the image the Barack Obama administration and the CIA have sought to establish in the news media of a programme based on highly accurate targeting that is effective in disrupting al Qaeda’s terrorist plots against the United States.

A new report on civilian casualties in the war in Pakistan has revealed direct evidence that a house was targeted for a drone attack merely because it had been visited by a group of Taliban soldiers.

The report came shortly after publication of the results of a survey of opinion within the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan showing overwhelming popular opposition to the drone strikes and majority support for suicide attacks on U.S. forces under some circumstances.

Meanwhile, data on targeting of the drone strikes in Pakistan indicate that they have now become primarily an adjunct of the U.S. war in Afghanistan, targeting almost entirely militant groups involved in the Afghan insurgency rather than al Qaeda officials involved in plotting global terrorism.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=53194

**poiuytrewq0987** · 10-26-2010, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Libre

What is the official death count told to us and this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

**poiuytrewq0987** · 10-26-2010, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by debaser11

people getting shot from a helicopter is not a pleasant sight and it does disturb me, but i think i would phrase my feelings more along the lines of "what the hell did you expect to see?" rather than saying that it's not disturbing.

I knew democracy now would be all over this like flies on shit.

democracy now for everyone!

**Debaser11** · 10-26-2010, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Austin

The morality store didn't have the right version so I kept my own. I'll try when it opens tomorrow. Sorry.

**Debaser11** · 10-26-2010, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Austin

They are mad because I'm not all troubled and heated over some non-European people being killed in a war-zone.

The Reuters guy was not a European.

Yet even if he had been it is a war/armed conflict. People die. One is not immoral for not being troubled to a great degree by this fact. It is a fact of life.

I actually agree that a person is not necessarily immoral for not being troubled at the sight of death. However, I don't think such feelings of detachment are good. I mean, soldiers wrestle with this stuff all the time because they don't want to lose their humanity.

Originally Posted by Austin

Someone is being raped violently to death right now, should I get up and prance around all worried? No that would be nonsensical. Life is life don't deem me immoral simply because I take it in different strides than you.

If you're addressing me specifically, I did no such thing. I don't even think I used the word "moral" in my post. I just don't think it's healthy to become desensitized. You're free to disagree all you want.

**~~Austin~~** · 10-26-2010, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Debaser11

I actually agree that a person is not necessarily immoral for not being troubled at the sight of death. However, I don't think such feelings of detachment are good. I mean, soldiers wrestle with this stuff all the time because they don't want to lose their humanity.

If you're addressing me specifically, I did no such thing. I don't even think I used the word "moral" in my post. I just don't think it's healthy to become desensitized. You're free to disagree all you want.

No I wasn't mentioning you, nobody was the one lol.

I do find it sad that they died. Yet I find it sad that anybody dies.