Hungary is Balkan @Stears@blogen etc

[Grishnack]

Wrong. Daco-roman tales are the speculations. Because they are nothing more political interest motivated tales. See your Transylvanian school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_School

Stears, please understand that we are fighting in vain here. As I said, no one knows what happened for sure in that dark part of history. We can only speculate, me included.

[The.Mask]

What if the Romans brought a lot of Illyrians in Dacia? Who brought their own language? And we know that Albanians are Illyrians. How about that?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lyria#Pirustae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Illyria#Breuci
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...yria#Sardeates etc.

So in a way, yeah. Romanians truly are related to Albanians, just not in the way you think.

Those dacian colonies are not yet proven, but even so, their number was very small.


The issue is very simple .

Albanians and Romanians have around 280 common words, which exist only between the 2 languages.

However there is one crucial thing to be noted.

Those colon words have ALBANIAN SUBSTRATUM AND ALBANIAN ORIGIN. THEY ORIGINATE FROM ALBANIAN LANGUAGE.

Considering that Albanians are very native to the regions they populate today, this gives us only one solution and option:

Romanians originate from the South of Balkans where Albanians live.

[Dunai]

Sorry, but that's speculation. There is not a single prrof that "the Hungarian king allowed Vlachs to settle on his lands". Surely must have been a document to attest this mass migration, yet there is none. Lack of evidence is always speculative.

It is not mere speculation, but documents start to appear (even if quite few) in the early 13th century that mention Vlachs or Romanians for the first time in Southern Transylvania. It is also indisputable historical fact that most Hungarian kings practiced the settling of foreign populations into the Hungarian Kingdom, Romanians actually benefited of many benefits, even autonomies in their mountainous refuges in Transylvania, just like the Saxons and Székelys. An interesting read:

"Romanian shepherds who migrated seasonally to the Danube may well have lived on the southern slopes of the South Carpathian range after the emergence of the Romanian people; this is particularly likely after 800, when the Bulgars conquered southern Transylvania, for their supervision of the area between the southern Carpathians and the Danube (today's Wallachia) made transhumance from mountain to river more secure. After Bulgaria came under Byzantine rule (ca. 1000), Wallachia would serve as a peripheral pastureland for the Pechenegs, and later for the Cumanians. The Byzantine outposts around the Danube Delta and the Danube Bend could not provide security for the Romanian shepherds or for the Slavs' forested region of the plains; these people had to accommodate themselves to the nomadic newcomers. For the sake of mutual security, the Pechenegs and Cumanians worked out a modus vivendi (sources give no details) with the Romanian shepherds. After 1185, when the Cumanians helped to form a Bulgar-Romanian czardom, this relationship was formalized in an alliance. The leaders (cnezes) of the Romanians in Wallachia — drawing in part on their experience in the Byzantine army — proceeded to organize their people over a {1-431.} growing area. Shepherds' settlements, known as katuns, were grouped into broader administrative units (kenézség) led by the kenéz. At first, the latter combined soldiering and shepherding, but over time they turned into a closed caste of professional soldiers, a pre-feudal elite similar to that of barbarian tribes. In all likelihood, the Romanian border guard units that were settled in Transylvania's frontier zone along with the Székelys and Pechenegs came from this élite.

The first authentic document concerning this region reveals that the Romanians enjoyed a certain degree of autonomy: according to a property register dating from Benedek's voivodeship (1202–1209), a piece of land — situated between the Olt River, the Eger and Árpás streams, and the mountains — was transferred by King Andrew II from the ownership of Romanians (exempta de Blaccis) to that of the Cistercian monastery at Kerc.

Since 'Barca's land' (Barca földje), the territory granted to the Teutonic Knights in 1211, encompassed the later-named districts of Sárkány and Törcs, it is likely that eastern boundary of the 'land of Blaks' ran from the Királykő to a point on the Olt between Fogaras and Sárkány. The line of the western boundary is more difficult to {1-432.} establish. The 'forest of the Romanians and Pechenegs' mentioned in the Andreanum must have been located somewhere southeast of Nagyszeben, in the vicinity of Beşineu Mountain and Talmács castle, for those toponyms commemorate the Pechenegs mentioned in a document dating from 1250: in 1211, the count of Szeben had led a force of Saxons, Romanians, Székelys, and Pechenegs (associatis sibi Saxonibus, Olacis, Siculis et Bissenis) to do battle in Bulgaria. There are also later references to the coexistence of the Pechenegs, Romanians, and Székelys. When, in 1260, the Bohemian king Ottokar II recorded his victory over the Hungarian king, he noted that latter's 'inhuman men' included not only Cumanians, Hungarians, and sundry Slavs, but also Székelys, Romanians, and Pechenegs (innumeram multitudinem ... Siculorum quoque et Valachorum, Bezzenninorum). If, as it appears, the toponyms Beschenbach — Besimbák — Beşinbav are derived from Pecheneg, then these people could also be found on the 'Blak land' of the Fogaras region. It is likely that an early and cohesive community of Pechenegs had lived near the Olt bend, around southern tributaries whose names — Barca, Brassó, Tömös, Tatrang, and Zajzon — betray a Turkic origin; these streams had their source in the passes through which the Cumanians would invade from Wallachia. On the other hand, the occurrence of the toponym Besenyő in the Székelyföld and farther north probably owes to scattered Pecheneg settlements.

It will be remembered that the king had moved Pecheneg guards out of the Barcaság — perhaps to the Szeben district — in order to make room in 1211 for the Teutonic Knights, who were expected to strengthen the defence of the border. Thus when, in 1231, the leader of the Teutonic Knights requested duty-free transit through the land of the Romanians and Székelys, he must have had in mind, in the east, the Székelys of Sepsi, who had been moved there in 1224 from Szászsebes, and, in the west, the Romanians who shared with Pechenegs a forest near Fogaras and Szeben. By {1-433.} that time, it is likely that most of the Pechenegs were settled alongside Romanians around Talmács; in the same area where later, in the second half of the 13th century, three castles were raised to protect the Szászföld — Talmács (at the Vöröstorony pass), Salgó (near present-day Orlát < Váralatt), and Pétervár (near Szászcsór).

The Fogaras Alps were impassable between the Vöröstorony and Törcsvár passes, and thus sheltered the region known as the 'Oláhföld' ('Vlach land'; it must have been named after a monastery, for a document from 1252 refers to terra Olacorum de Kyrch); the first castle in this region, at Fogaras, was raised in the 15th century. However, west of the Olt River, the Szászföld was vulnerable to attackers moving north along the Lator and Zsil valleys, hence the building of the above-noted castles. The earliest documents that mention Romanian villages near these castles date from the 14th century; they are initially referred to simply as 'Vlach villages' (oláh falvak), and then by triple — German, Hungarian, and Romanian — names. However, there is every reason to believe that Romanians (as well as Pechenegs) lived there as early as the beginning of the 13th century, and with the same purpose as in 1383: to guard the mountain frontier from Talmács to Oláhnagyfalu (today's Szelistye), near Orlát (assumserunt ipsi Walachi custodiam alpibus ab Tolmacz usque ad magnam villam Walachicalem).

Contemporary sources, and inferences from later ones, point to the existence around 1200 of a 'Blak land' in the mountains near Fogaras and Szászváros, i.e. of an administrative district of Romanian border guards."

http://mek.oszk.hu/03400/03407/html/73.html

[Antimage]

Only Alföld is culturally balkanite territory and you are balkanite.

Scientific proof:
BELUSZKY PÁL

AZ „ALFÖLD-SZINDRDMA - EREDETE (VÁZLAT)
http://tet.rkk.hu/index.php/TeT/article/view/98/195

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...orst-nightmare

[RN97]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...orst-nightmare

Hah, I wonder what's worst to Stearsy being considered balkan or eastern European. Here in Norway both Romanians and Hungarians are considered eastern Europeans.

[Tobi]

HUNGARY IS CENTRAL EUROPE, HATERS

[RN97]

HUNGARY IS CENTRAL EUROPE, HATERS

It's funny because I never know such a thing even existed before TA. Norwegians mostly only use southern, eastern and western Europe. Italy, Greece and Iberia= southern Europe. Rich countries = western Europe, poorer countries= eastern Europe.

[Tobi]

It's funny because I never know such a thing even existed before TA. Norwegians mostly only use southern, eastern and western Europe. Italy, Greece and Iberia= southern Europe. Rich countries = western Europe, poorer countries= eastern Europe.

I used to think of it as an eastern euro coutry, tbh. But talking with hungarians in real life, I just realized that they could kill you if you say it to them more than one time. It is central because is/was the "last nation under Rome" according to them basically. According to themselves be an eastern euro is connected to be an orthodox.

[DarknessWin]

You wish. Romani-ans are typical Balkanites (with negroid E1b and Semitic J markers) and on autosomal level you are just like Bulgarians and Serbs (due to your Southern Balkanite Vlach roots) Deal with it.

Balkans have EV13 and J2. EV13 is Meditteranean (Pelasgian) and J2 are sea people like Minoans,Philistines and Romans/Byzantines
Negroid and Semitic?? LOL, man you are full of bullshit
So Napoleon was Negroid, Hitler was Negroid and Ben Afleck is Semitic , Friedrich Engelhorn is semitic and Alexander Zhulin semitic too , right ???
Fucking idiots when you will learn that Haplo mean nothing ??

[Biometrik]

Don't know but in America they are considered Central Europeans. Eastern Europe is associated with Mongoloid infected Slavs and Balkanites, which is weird because this shows Poland and Czech Republic.