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Thread: North African, SW Asian, and North Euro admixture in S. Europe: Dodecad K12b.

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    Default North African, SW Asian, and North Euro admixture in S. Europe: Dodecad K12b.

    I averaged together MANY results.

    Iberia is the most northern, least MENA. NE Sicily is the opposite. Crete is more MENA, less North Euro shifted than the aggregate of the Aegean islands. Palermo has the highest MENA shifted outliers even if not the highest average. SE Sicily is the most "northern" shifted part of the island, which means there is some point on the east coast moving south where the Greek influence really begins to be present.

    North African, highest to lowest:
    Palermo: 4.81 (3.17-7.66)
    Messina: 4.75 (2.99-6.26)
    Catania: 4.58 (2.85-5.48)
    Iberia: 4.53 (2.7-7.58)
    Agrigento: 4.57 (3.15-5.38)
    Caltanissetta: 4.34 (4.05-4.68)
    Trapani: 4.21 (3.07-5.85)
    Calabria: 4.14 (2.84-5.83)
    SE Sicily: 3.33 (2.22-4.11)
    Crete: 2.52 (1.76-2.96)
    Aegean islands: 2.40 (0.8-4.42)
    Greek mainland: 1.23 (0-2.56)

    North Euro, highest to lowest:
    Iberia: 25.28 (23.17-27.75)
    Greek mainland: 22.91 (20.18-24.82)
    Aegean islands: 14.22 (8.11-21.54)
    SE Sicily: 14.01 (10.03-17.15)
    Trapani: 13.86 (11.62-15.63)
    Crete: 13.42 (12.38-14.31)
    Caltanissetta: 13.20 (12.52-13.74)
    Palermo: 12.89 (8.36-17.98)
    Agrigento: 11.80 (10.5-13.69)
    Catania: 11.72 (9.53-14.24)
    Calabria: 11.65 (6.73-13.57)
    Messina: 11.36 (7.59-14.45)

    SW Asian, highest to lowest:
    Agrigento: 13.43 (11.59-14.05)
    Crete: 13.42 (12.08-16.02)
    Caltanissetta: 13.40 (12.88-14.11)
    Calabria: 13.38 (11.17-15.77)
    Catania: 13.02 (11.57-14.14)
    Messina: 12.91 (10.91-14.98)
    Palermo: 12.60 (9.87-16.27)
    Aegean islands: 12.36 (10.09-15.06)
    Trapani: 12.29 (10.88-14.08)
    SE Sicily: 12.02 (9.87-13.41)
    Greek mainland: 9.69 (7.46-11.89)
    Iberia: 4.53 (3.91-6)

    Total NW African + SW Asian:
    Agrigento: 17.80
    Caltanissetta: 17.74
    Messina: 17.67
    Catania: 17.60
    Calabria: 17.52
    Palermo: 17.41
    Trapani: 16.50
    Crete: 16.18
    SE Sicily: 15.31
    Aegean islands: 14.77
    Greek mainland: 10.92
    Iberia: 10.17

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    Nice thread. How much SW Asian in Malta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thevillager View Post
    Nice thread. How much SW Asian in Malta?
    Probably close to Agrigento and Caltanissetta considering that is where they descend from. Any surprises above or no?

    Some people might be surprised the Aegean islands as a whole are more Northern European shifted than Crete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Some people might be surprised the Aegean islands as a whole are more Northern European shifted than Crete.
    nah, I'm not surprised by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thevillager View Post
    nah, I'm not surprised by that.
    I also don't know why people think that Cretans look lighter and less exotic. Some Cretans can be light but I have seen a lot more pictures of light eyed and genuinely Northern looking people from Lesbos, Samos, and Chios.

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    Some of the SW Asian might have come from Phoenicians




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    How many samples from each group is this based on?
    The Indo-Aryan Languages--------Beautiful Bengal--------Kashmir: Paradise on Earth--------The Nord-Indid Phenotype--------Ethnic Groups of Southern Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thevillager View Post
    Some of the SW Asian might have come from Phoenicians



    That could be, but I also suspect that Sicily and Crete were originally inhabited by Afro-Asiatic speakers (Sicanians? Minoans?).

    My question to you is, which part of Sicily do you think has been most, and least, impacted by foreigners based on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah-Jehan View Post
    How many samples from each group is this based on?

    20+ for Messina, Palermo, and Aegean islands each. Around 15 for Greece, and the rest a bit less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    That could be, but I also suspect that Sicily and Crete were originally inhabited by Afro-Asiatic speakers (Sicanians? Minoans?).

    My question to you is, which part of Sicily do you think has been most, and least, impacted by foreigners based on this?
    What sort of foreigners? Nordics or non-Europeans?

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