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    Fennoscandia and Europe
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    I took part as well, I'm FI15 marked with blue arrow. Halfway between Finns and Swedes it seems (100% Finn, western)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Pålsen View Post
    I have beeing looking at the raw data without Finestructure to find eastern connections. I compared the data between Finns, Saami and umixed Nganassans (and other Siberians). I compared both averages, standard deviations and minimum and maxium lengths and their averages.

    Saami - Nganassans: Avg lenght: 1.64, Stddev: 0.91, Max avg 2.58 Min avg 0.87. Max: 3.99 Min: 0.33
    Finns - Nganassans: Avg lenght: 2.1, Stddev: 0.54, Max avg 3.27 Min 1.45. Max 4.15 Min 1.26

    I also made a control calculation using Scandinavian clustering Norwegians:

    Norwegians - Nganassans: Avg lenght: 1.83 Stddev: 0.30, Max avg: 2.45 Min avg: 1.48, Max: 2.86 Min: 1.33

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Pålsen View Post
    This is the result from the mutational matrix. It appears Finns is at average but the max's indicate that some Finns have more related haplotypes. Saami and Norwegians appears to have closely related numbers vs the Nganassans.

    Id Sam Fin Nor
    Max 1,4 5,4 1,2
    Min 0,1 0,1 0,1
    Avg 0,4 0,4 0,3
    MaxAvg 0,7 2,0 0,8
    MinAvg 0,2 0,1 0,1
    StdDev 0,3 0,7 0,2

    ---------- Post added 2012-02-29 at 14:17 ----------

    This is the result for the number of number shared segments (chunkcounts). Here the numbers for Finns look similar to Norwegians vs the Nganassans.

    Id Sam Fin Nor
    Max 17,92 12,54 12,82
    Min 6,25 5,41 5,46
    Avg 9,55 8,32 8,21
    MaxAvg 13,07 10,33 10,79
    MinAvg 7,34 6,46 6,33
    StdDev 2,68 1,70 1,63

    So it appears Saamis have more shared segments in number than Finns but these are so small in total length that they still is smaller than for the total for Finns.

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    I'm NO4 here - the one with the highest blue bar(French)

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    My three-dimensional distances (FI15) from other project participants, top 20. Pretty interesting what a mix of Swedes,Estonians.Finns and Norwegians this is for me whereas many Finns score a list of only Finns in top 10-15 and then some others.

    Swede in the top of my list even

    FI15 FI15 0,0000
    FI15 SWE20 0,0456
    FI15 FI4 0,0487
    FI15 SWE18 0,0568
    FI15 FI5 0,0666
    FI15 FI9 0,0694
    FI15 FI11 0,0865
    FI15 FI1 0,0893
    FI15 SWE31 0,0978
    FI15 NO7 0,0991
    FI15 SWE7 0,1011
    FI15 FI12 0,1052
    FI15 ES1 0,1142
    FI15 SWE11 0,1152
    FI15 FI2 0,1183
    FI15 SWE21 0,1187
    FI15 NO6 0,1189
    FI15 FI13 0,1206
    FI15 SWE12 0,1216
    FI15 ES2 0,1231
    FI15 FI3 0,1299

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    Marked my position red(NO4)

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    I'm now participating in Fennoscandia as NO15.
    You can of course find me on that genetic plot posted by Svåse above...

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    NO4

    American 0,0%
    Oceanian 0,6%
    East Asian 0,9%
    Siberian 2,8%
    Mediterranean 9,8%
    European 77,6%
    Central Asian 7,3%
    African 0,8%

    For comparison

    NO5(evon) - West Norwegian

    American 0,9%
    Oceanian 1,3%
    East Asian 2,0%
    Siberian 0,0%
    Mediterranean 11,7%
    European 75,1%
    Central Asian 9,0%
    African 0,0%

    NO15(Olavsson) - East Norwegian

    American 2,9%
    Oceanian 1,4%
    East Asian 0,0%
    Siberian 2,5%
    Mediterranean 10,6%
    European 77,1%
    Central Asian 5,4%
    African 0,0%

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndersP View Post
    ID CL

    SWE25 83,42
    FI12 77,98
    belorus8 77,33
    SWE8 76,24
    lithuania10 75,85
    SA3 75,80
    NO9 74,90
    SWE22 74,67
    LI1 74,55
    SWE18 74,52
    NO6 74,52
    SWE24 74,03
    NO13 73,70
    NO15 73,49
    NO1 72,92
    SA1 72,67
    SWE28 72,38
    LI4 72,35
    belorus6 71,59
    SWE4 71,27
    NO11 71,26
    NO12 69,93
    NO3 69,14
    FI4 69,09
    FI8 69,04
    SWE34 68,95
    ES1 68,94
    SA2 68,51
    NO2 68,15
    lithuania7 67,88
    FI2 67,79
    SWE12 67,75
    lithuania3 67,70
    SWE23 67,55
    SWE14 67,33
    FI7 67,27
    SWE20 67,20
    SWE3 67,17
    FI18 67,06
    NO4 66,79
    FI9 66,78
    FI20 66,44
    FI11 66,44
    belorus3 66,19
    belorus10 66,06
    SWE2 66,05
    belorus4 66,04
    SWE10 65,98
    SWE9 65,93
    FI3 65,77
    SWE6 65,71
    SWE11 65,55
    SWE21 65,42
    NO10 65,34
    belorus5 65,00
    FI6 64,99
    SWE7 64,83
    FI5 64,80
    SWE13 64,39
    NO14 64,10
    SWE27 63,63
    SWE19 63,53
    SWE5 63,41
    lithuania8 63,23
    lithuania6 63,22
    SWE15 63,05
    belorus1 62,97
    SWE26 62,91
    NO8 62,80
    SA4 62,49
    lithuania1 62,38
    ES2 62,33
    belorus7 62,04
    SWE29 61,72
    lithuania2 61,66
    lithuania5 61,47
    FI10 61,41
    LI3 61,32
    SWE30 61,08
    FI1 60,72
    SWE16 59,96
    SWE17 59,77
    FI14 59,52
    FI13 59,47
    lithuania4 59,26
    FI15 59,20
    SWE1 59,14
    FI17 58,95
    FI19 58,93
    NO7 56,57
    belorus2 56,18
    LI2 53,51
    FI16 52,34
    NO5 52,21

    These are the averages of x and y axis of the CL matrix vs the composite ancient gotlander.

    41th from the list.

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    New update, i have not yet looked at the results, but will do so later

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