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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Planoccipital skull, brachycephal and square box-like shape of head instead of round commonly seen in Balkano-Caucasians also seems to be a sign of hyperaggressivity-hypermasculinity, as it's unusually prominent in MMA fighters and such.
    And where are the Albanian MMA fighters hiding?

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    OP, if you read Coon's book, he says exactly that. His thesis is that Dinaricization is a process which occurs separately in different populations, among different groups of Mediterranean-Alpine blends. "Dinaric" populations will have some individuals which clearly show the Dinaric features and others which are mostly Alpine-Med and don't show them to a strong degree, as well as purer Meds and Alpines. (And as others have pointed out, those features seem to show more often in men than in women). Based on that observation, he assumed that Dinaricization was related to the blending of dolichocephalic and brachycephalic types, which sometimes developed a distinctive set of facial features due to some unknown mechanism.

    It's also been pointed out that there is a relationship between the Dinaric and Borreby types, which blend into each other in the Bell Beaker folk as well as Coon's examples of Balkan UP survivors. Someone (don't remember who) claimed the Borreby skull itself was related to Dinarics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imamudin View Post
    And where are the Albanian MMA fighters hiding?
    I don't follow that stuff. All I know is Albanians are disproportionally successful in combat sports in general and that's something I've seen. Nice bait, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Second based on reserch soviet anthropologist came up with Balkano-Caucasian race wich shares a lot of characteristics. Nowdays while we can obviously see that Balkans do indeed have stronger Caucaus affinity than rest of Europe we can't say that this influence is particularry high or enough to produce predominanty dinaric areas
    Absolutely nothing in fossil record proves Caucasian origin of Dinaric type. Caucasians are not predominantly Dinaric (even though it does exist there in sizable quantity):
    On the whole, the Dinaricism of the Caucasian area is only partial; there are too many unaltered Mediterraneans, and too many Alpine-Danubian mixtures, which, here as in Croatia and Slovenia, fail to assume a Dinaric facial form, to make the Caucasus as Dinaric a country as the Tyrol or Albania.
    (TRoE, chapter XII, section 18)
    Origins of Dinaric type lie strongly in Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    we can't say that this influence is particularry high or enough to produce predominanty dinaric areas such as Northern Albania or Montenegro without some selection going on.
    Montenegro is actually least Dinaric out of all western Balkan countries (even less Dinaric than Tyrol). You can often see Dinaricized individuals, but pure Dinarics are extremely rare.
    Montenegro is not, therefore, simply a Dinaric nucleus; it is a Borreby-like or Afalou-like outcropping within a Dinaric nucleus.
    (TRoE, chapter XII, section 12)

    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Third thing you must take in consideration is that Dinaric is extremly sexually dimorphic phenotype, even in hotspots mentioned earlier feamles do not usually display dinaric features, so Dinarid is considered to be a result of extreme maturisation, just tnink of it - even in common knowlege such dinaric feature as long, promitent and convex nose is considered to be a sign of Intelligence, strength and masculinity in males, while among females it's one of the most undesired traits.

    One other thing is that Balkano-Caucasian race is the most muscular one among all Caucasoid groups, which also says in favour of sexual dimorphism theory.
    Nasal convexity is neither a defining trait of Dinaric (explained in earlier posts), nor does nasal form play a significant role in sexual dimorphism.
    Also, Dinarics are most commonly of lean build.
    It is not a type with strong sexual dimorphism. Dinaric women often look quite masculine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amud View Post
    It's also been pointed out that there is a relationship between the Dinaric and Borreby types, which blend into each other in the Bell Beaker folk as well as Coon's examples of Balkan UP survivors. Someone (don't remember who) claimed the Borreby skull itself was related to Dinarics.
    Borreby type is in no way related to Dinaric. Especially original Borreby skull, with its peculiar dimensions, vertically compressed mental protuberance, rocker jaw, and Neanderthaloid skullcap, can't be tied to Dinaric in any way.
    Borreby of present-day western Balkans (core is found in Montenegro, with a few extensions towards neighboring areas), or any UP type for that matter, was not found in ancient Illyrian skeletons (a good example is Glasinac skeletal series), which suggests UP types didn't survive Neolithic and Iron Age on Balkans, but rather had to come from somewhere during Migration Period.

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    "Dinarid" does not exist in the North Caucasus.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Imamudin View Post
    "Dinarid" does not exist in the North Caucasus.
    These dinarids composits are poluted with borreby/CM input (or this borreby/CM input is intrinsic of dinarid type).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Absolutely nothing in fossil record proves Caucasian origin of Dinaric type. Caucasians are not predominantly Dinaric (even though it does exist there in sizable quantity):
    On the whole, the Dinaricism of the Caucasian area is only partial; there are too many unaltered Mediterraneans, and too many Alpine-Danubian mixtures, which, here as in Croatia and Slovenia, fail to assume a Dinaric facial form, to make the Caucasus as Dinaric a country as the Tyrol or Albania.
    (TRoE, chapter XII, section 18)
    Origins of Dinaric type lie strongly in Europe.


    Montenegro is actually least Dinaric out of all western Balkan countries (even less Dinaric than Tyrol). You can often see Dinaricized individuals, but pure Dinarics are extremely rare.
    Montenegro is not, therefore, simply a Dinaric nucleus; it is a Borreby-like or Afalou-like outcropping within a Dinaric nucleus.
    (TRoE, chapter XII, section 12)


    Nasal convexity is neither a defining trait of Dinaric (explained in earlier posts), nor does nasal form play a significant role in sexual dimorphism.
    Also, Dinarics are most commonly of lean build.
    It is not a type with strong sexual dimorphism. Dinaric women often look quite masculine.

    Borreby type is in no way related to Dinaric. Especially original Borreby skull, with its peculiar dimensions, vertically compressed mental protuberance, rocker jaw, and Neanderthaloid skullcap, can't be tied to Dinaric in any way.
    Borreby of present-day western Balkans (core is found in Montenegro, with a few extensions towards neighboring areas), or any UP type for that matter, was not found in ancient Illyrian skeletons (a good example is Glasinac skeletal series), which suggests UP types didn't survive Neolithic and Iron Age on Balkans, but rather had to come from somewhere during Migration Period.
    The view that the Borreby skull was related to Dinarics was actually the common viewpoint of the early authors. Here are just two examples I managed to dig up with a few minutes of searching:


    http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/reeh/reoehchap7.htm


    https://books.google.com/books?id=VI...page&q&f=false

    Note: I don't necessarily agree with that viewpoint, I am just sharing what others have claimed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Absolutely nothing in fossil record proves Caucasian origin of Dinaric type. Caucasians are not predominantly Dinaric (even though it does exist there in sizable quantity):
    On the whole, the Dinaricism of the Caucasian area is only partial; there are too many unaltered Mediterraneans, and too many Alpine-Danubian mixtures, which, here as in Croatia and Slovenia, fail to assume a Dinaric facial form, to make the Caucasus as Dinaric a country as the Tyrol or Albania.
    (TRoE, chapter XII, section 18)
    Origins of Dinaric type lie strongly in Europe.
    That is what i was saying.


    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Nasal convexity is neither a defining trait of Dinaric (explained in earlier posts), nor does nasal form play a significant role in sexual dimorphism.
    Also, Dinarics are most commonly of lean build.
    It is not a type with strong sexual dimorphism. Dinaric women often look quite masculine.
    Nasal form is one of the most sexually dimorphic traits. In all studied populations males have higher percent of Straight and convex noses, while females tend towards concavity.

    Point being that for 10 dinaric males you can find about 1 dinaric female.

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    Shieeeeeeeeeet, some of you actually read this old anthropology crap.

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