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    As the opposition Social Democrats continued to discuss forming a government with ethnic Albanian parties, a mysterious group called Hardcore, which describes itself as a Macedonian patriotic organization, called on ethnic Macedonians to join a protest march in Skopje on Friday.
    It said the march would be held under the slogan "No to Threats and Blackmails towards Macedonia!!!" – believed to be a reference to the ethnic Albanian parties’ conditions for joining a new government coalition.
    In a Facebook post, the group dismissed claims that it is linked to the ruling conservative VMRO DPMNE party, and insisted that the march "is not deliberately timed" to coincide with the possible announcement of a new government, which is expected by the end of this week.
    The ethnic Albanian Democratic Union for Integration, DUI is facing a difficult decision on whether to abandon its former government partner, the VMRO DPMNE, and join the opposition Social Democrats, SDSM.
    The DUI says this depends on whether the SDSM accepts the so-called ‘Albanian platform’, which would give ethnic Albanians, who make up a quarter of the population, more rights.
    Meanwhile renowned actor and VMRO DPMNE supporter Vlado Jovanovski caused strong reactions when he accused opposition SDSM leader Zoran Zaev of signing a deal “with the blood of the dead defenders from recent and past wars” – a reference to the 2001 conflict with ethnic Albanian insurgents, whose leaders then set up the DUI.
    “THERE WILL BE WAR! A NEW WAR!" Jovanovski wrote on Facebook.
    "How much does it costs to buy plastic explosive on the black market?" he added.
    Unnamed sources close to the VMRO DPMNE told Deutsche Welle on Thursday that the main aim behind such rhetoric was "to send a last message to the DUI... that if the will of the majority of Macedonians is not respected, the people might [cause unrest]".
    The same source was quoted as saying that the ruling party wanted to scare DUI leader Ali Ahmeti with the thought that “he would bear great responsibility for the possible destabilisation of the country".

    In the aftermath of the December 11 elections, at which VMRO DPMNE won 51 MPs in the 120 seat parliament, just two more than the SDSM's 49, neither of the two big parties has been able to secure a majority of 61 MPs and form a government yet.
    Both need the support of Albanian parties, which control 20 MPs altogether.
    The DUI, which won 10 MPs, rejected the VMRO DPMNE's attempt to lure it back into a renewed government alliance.
    The party now insists on the acceptance of the so-called Albanian platform, forged by all key Albanian parties with the help of Tirana, as a precondition for joining a government.
    Ahmeti, whose party was in the government coalition with the VMRO DPMNE for the past eight years, told media on Thursday that it would take its time to decide.

    "The decision is very difficult, we are analysing all the aspects and all the details from the SDSM proposition," Ahmeti said.

    The SDSM has kept relatively silent in the past few days about its ongoing talks with the DUI, but party spokesperson Petre Silegov said it was optimistic that the DUI's final decision would come soon and would be positive.
    In 2001, Macedonia went through a short armed conflict between ethnic Albanian guerillas and the security forces which ended the same year with the signing of a peace accord which guaranteed greater rights to the Albanian minority.
    The new Albanian platform aims to slightly expand on those rights or secure their full implementation, focusing mainly on the greater use of the Albanian language and on the fairer distribution of the national budget along ethnic lines.
    - See more at: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti....mXD9QO4l.dpuf

    Hahaha is there any special site that follows all this VMRO butthurt over the current political situation?

    “THERE WILL BE WAR! A NEW WAR!" Reminds me of the retard Brennus on this forum, "WE CRUSHED YOU!"

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    If i was Ahmeti, i would fucking give the green light to a final conflict because we cannot continue like this, it is deadly sure that this won't ever be a normal state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HERK View Post
    If i was Ahmeti, i would fucking give the green light to a final conflict because we cannot continue like this, it is deadly sure that this won't ever be a normal state.
    War or no war, doesn't really matter to us. The ball is in the Makedonski side of the court, if they want to go the democratic way then the majority should choose and that would be Zaev. If they want conflict after that then there's no shortage of willing Albanians, especially not considering that thousands are already willing to die for money in fucking Syria, there'll be shitloads of willing warriors in Macedonia, that is without considering the Albanians in Macedonia themselves.

    With that said war is very unlikely. It's most likely just empty barking. I hope Ahmeti goes with Zaev though just to follow the coming butthurt in the future.

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    Dardano-Paeonian conflicts since time immemorial.

    My money is on the Paeonians - last time all of Fyromski diaspora hid under their beds will be interesting to see how they react next time.

    Who are the Turks and Gypsies going to side with they make 5.5% of the population.

    You guys are perma-entertainers
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post


    Dardano-Paeonian conflicts since time immemorial.

    My money is on the Paeonians - last time all of Fyromski diaspora hid under their beds will be interesting to see how they react next time.

    Who are the Turks and Gypsies going to side with they make 5.5% of the population.

    You guys are perma-entertainers
    Ehh which ones are the Paeonians in this case? You follow it up with Fyromski hid under their beds but Fyromski sure as fuck aren't the Dardani. They are the Serboi or Bulgars, they can pick one who gives a shit.

    Historical mistakes should be corrected and as that US congressman said some week ago, Macedonia should unite with Kosovo.

    Either way whatever happens I agree with you on the entertainment part, this is perfect. Albanians in Kosovo are willing to fight over ONE mountain peak or whatever it is bordering Montenegro, they'd be flocking in to Macedonia. Gotta join the brethren I lowkey hope the Macedonians overstep their boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albobalboa View Post
    Ehh which ones are the Paeonians in this case? You follow it up with Fyromski hid under their beds but Fyromski sure as fuck aren't the Dardani. They are the Serboi or Bulgars, they can pick one who gives a shit.

    Historical mistakes should be corrected and as that US congressman said some week ago, Macedonia should unite with Kosovo.

    Either way whatever happens I agree with you on the entertainment part, this is perfect. Albanians in Kosovo are willing to fight over ONE mountain peak or whatever it is bordering Montenegro, they'd be flocking in to Macedonia. Gotta join the brethren I lowkey hope the Macedonians overstep their boundaries.
    No - you guys don't have any military equipment you might win a skirmish here and there which is natural but militarily capturing towns and cities you just don't have the military power. You're numbers are fine to win and win well but you guys just don't have the armaments. They will crush you militarily I suggest you make peace before it is too late
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    No - you guys don't have any military equipment you might win a skirmish here and there which is natural but militarily capturing towns and cities you just don't have the military power. You're numbers are fine to win and win well but you guys just don't have the armaments. They will crush you militarily I suggest you make peace before it is too late
    Fair points lack of military supplies may be an issue, although I don't think the Macedonian military itself is all too heavy on military supplies. Most likely it would be something similar to eastern Ukraine, bit of a frozen conflict where Albanian militants are relatively closed off somewhere in northwestern Macedonia.

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    If you want to solve the problems by conflict, go ahead. All presume to come out as winners not knowing that we all will end up as losers. Will the wold support another sunni rebellion? It may or may not, let us try.

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    Greeks will be there again and next time will not leave like Greeks have permanent soldiers in Kosovo .

    We will clean up the mess you leave again, protect the churches we built again, feed you again, give you medical care again........next time we will not leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Greeks will be there again and next time will not leave like Greeks have permanent soldiers in Kosovo .

    We will clean up the mess you leave again, protect the churches we built again, feed you again, give you medical care again........next time we will not leave.
    Turks fly f-16s over the aegean every single day and you dream of going to kosovo? like wtf

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