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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Aye, but (and this is the reason I'll never support legalization of these two), is it even possible for there to be moderate users of crack and heroin? There are many recreational users of drugs which are currently illegal who lead very successful lives and are no more impacted by their drug use than is a moderate drinker by his couple of daily beers. But do you ever see that with these two drugs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodeagle View Post
    Comparing alcohol and heroin together are like comparing apples with oranges.
    Europeans and their kin have been exposed to alcohol for so long that it has become part of their cultural and social fabrics. We have even developed genetic resistance to alcohols negative effects.
    Other peoples of the world are not so lucky, to have this genetic resistance.
    Native Americans are terrible drunks. Many native Americans are instantly addicted to alcohol once they try it.

    Do to the fact that black market heroin varies in strength and quality, it can be an addiction with lethal consequences.

    I can speak from the experience of one who has had a few friends who became and then left this world as heroin addicts.

    That said, I feel that heroin is an extremely powerful and dangerous drug that should never be legalized for street use.
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    Alcohol is worse than heroin in a certain sense : it is socially acceptable and ubiquitous and can be more dangerous than heroin to withdraw from (possibly causing seizures). Alcohol is poison plain and simple and everytime a person moderately has a few drinks they are playing Russian roulette with alcoholism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt

    Alcohol is more harmful than heroin or crack, according to a study published in medical journal the Lancet.

    The report is co-authored by Professor David Nutt, the former UK chief drugs adviser who was sacked by the government in October 2009.

    It ranks 20 drugs on 16 measures of harm to users and to wider society.

    Tobacco and cocaine are judged to be equally harmful, while ecstasy and LSD are among the least damaging.


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    When my parents were younger, they both drank mixed drinks, and I never saw them drunk, not even once.

    In contrast, in a past job I had a supervisor who once told me about a friend of his who had taken LSD. His friend thought he was covered with ants, and his solution was to set himself on fire. My supervisor stayed with his friend until he was ok.
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    Thank you for the advice, the Nutty Professor.
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    You know I smoke alot of grass, but I'm trying to avoid alcohol these days. I've seen alcohol absolutely ruin the lives of several people I know and i think it's probably one of the most underrated dangers out there. People think it being legal means it's safe. But alcohol can take you down a very bad path. My best friend is currently in the middle of alcoholism, and it's totally messed him up. He used to be a straight laced guy. Always was careful, never did anything crazy. Focused on school and exercise. And after his 21st birthday it was all downhill. Somehow me and him ended up flipping places because of his alcoholism. I became more careful while he became more erratic and reckless and more of a confrontational person. And it isnt just when he's drinking anymore. Even when he's sober, he's still a wreck. Alcohol really messed up his mental health and even physically his body looks taxed. You won't miss out on anything if you never drink again. But if you drink too much, you'll experience the worst shit. If you hate being sober, smoke weed. Or dang, drink some bang energy or something. That is technically a drug so if you really need "drugs," there you go. But don't become reliant on liquor. Never become reliant on liquor.

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    Someone who has issues with alcohol should not drink, end of the story.

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    Depends what we mean by harmful...




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