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    My mom is a codeine addict too. Curiously I get some prescripted one day (for a throat ache i guess) and I feel almost no relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio View Post
    My mom is a codeine addict too. Curiously I get some prescripted one day (for a throat ache i guess) and I feel almost no relief.
    Your doctor probably prescribed the codeine for cough relief. The drug is one of the most effective cough relievers produced. Codeine used to be the main ingredient in over-the-counter cough syrups, but it has been removed (as an ingredient) by most U. S. States' and European Countries' drug-enforcement agencies because of its potential for addiction and/or misuse. I believe that Canada is amongst one of the few Countries that still permits the [unregulated] sale of Codeine OTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motörhead Remember Me View Post
    The governments need that alco tax money, though...
    Governments need a little money as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birka View Post
    Governments need as little money as possible.
    Stated like a true Libertarian!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriR˙che View Post
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    We can still get codeine linctus over the counter in some chemists in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    We can still get codeine linctus over the counter in some chemists in the UK.
    Can you get low dose Buprenorphine OTC in the United Kingdom? I think it is called "Phenogesic" or "Subgesic" in Europe. Here, in the U.S., it is called "Suboxone" or "Subutex" and is used as an alternative to methadone for treatment of heroin and oxycodone/contin addiction.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Birka View Post
    Governments need a little money as possible.
    But what if the money that came from taxation went straight to independent organisations that looked after addicts ?



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    But what if the money that came from taxation went straight to independent organisations that looked after addicts ?
    As much as I am opposed to reckless over-taxation, I think that tax revenue currently gained from "Sin taxes" in the United States (Alcohol, cigarettes, etc) would be put to better use if spent on treatment programs for users.

    The US Gov't makes nearly 200 BILLION dollars per year on these "Sin taxes", and the majority of the money is spent on prisons and law enforcement; and some of it is spent on silly anti-smoking and anti-drug commercials that are [in my opinion] counter-productive. There are over 1 million people in prison for non-violent drug offenses in the United States- THAT is pathetic.


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    Comparing alcohol and heroin together are like comparing apples with oranges.
    Europeans and their kin have been exposed to alcohol for so long that it has become part of their cultural and social fabrics. We have even developed genetic resistance to alcohols negative effects.
    Other peoples of the world are not so lucky, to have this genetic resistance.
    Native Americans are terrible drunks. Many native Americans are instantly addicted to alcohol once they try it.

    Do to the fact that black market heroin varies in strength and quality, it can be an addiction with lethal consequences.

    I can speak from the experience of one who has had a few friends who became and then left this world as heroin addicts.

    That said, I feel that heroin is an extremely powerful and dangerous drug that should never be legalized for street use.
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