BOMBSHELL: Scottish independence: Nicola Sturgeon to seek second referendum

**Loki** · 03-13-2017, 08:40 PM

Scottish independence: Nicola Sturgeon to seek second referendum

Ms Sturgeon said she wanted a vote to be held between the autumn of 2018 and the spring of the following year.

That would coincide with the expected conclusion of the UK's Brexit negotiations.

The Scottish first minister said the move was needed to protect Scottish interests in the wake of the UK voting to leave the EU.

She will ask the Scottish Parliament next Tuesday to request a Section 30 order from Westminster.

The order would be needed to allow a fresh legally-binding referendum on independence to be held.

Prime Minister Theresa May has so far avoided saying whether or not she would grant permission.

Responding to Ms Sturgeon's announcement, Mrs May said a second independence referendum would set Scotland on course for "uncertainty and division" and insisted that the majority of people in Scotland did not want another vote on the issue.

She added: "The tunnel vision that SNP has shown today is deeply regrettable.

"Instead of playing politics with the future of our country, the Scottish government should focus on delivering good government and public services for the people of Scotland. Politics is not a game."

But speaking at her official Bute House residence in Edinburgh, Ms Sturgeon said the people of Scotland must be offered a choice between a "hard Brexit" and becoming an independent country.
The Scottish government has published proposals which it says would allow Scotland to remain a member of the European single market even if the rest of the UK leaves, which Mrs May has said it will.

**MissMischief** · 03-13-2017, 11:56 PM

I think there is no real reason to object to having a referendum, even if the case for Scottish independence has weakened in some ways. Membership of the EU was a rather large factor for many Scots who voted to stay in the UK, and that has now changed. It is not simply a rerun with a weaker case for leaving, Scotland's voters who wanted to remain as part of a larger union now have a lot more to think about.

**Loki** · 03-13-2017, 11:59 PM

This could have far-reaching consequences for Brexit and the European Union. It even makes a battle over Catalan independence more likely.

**Óttar** · 03-14-2017, 12:00 AM

It's really weird to think of a world without a United Kingdom of Great Britain.

**Lightshade25** · 03-14-2017, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Óttar

It's really weird to think of a world without a United Kingdom of Great Britain.

Yeah, the Balkanization of the British Isles will not be a pretty sight.

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 03-14-2017, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

This could have far-reaching consequences for Brexit and the European Union. It even makes a battle over Catalan independence more likely.

The Spanish parliament votes usually overwhelmingly for motions rejecting the referendum, making it illegal and practically impossible to happen.

**Loki** · 03-14-2017, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Viriato

The Spanish parliament votes usually overwhelmingly for motions rejecting the referendum, making it illegal and practically impossible to happen.

The Catalans are committed though. What will it take for them to get independence? Civil war?

**~~Egyptian~~** · 03-14-2017, 08:23 PM

That's what Al-Fayed wanted.

**wvwvw** · 03-14-2017, 08:29 PM

Get to the back of the queue! Spain warns Sturgeon that Scotland will have to reapply for EU membership and adopt the euro if it votes for independence

Spain today warned Scotland it would be at the 'back of the queue' for EU membership if it voted for independence. Foreign minister Alfonso Dastis said Spain would do nothing to encourage 'secession' in other countries. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has unveiled plans for a snap re-run of the 2014 independence referendum in a bid to preserve Scotland's place in Europe.

The SNP leader has infuriated Prime Minister Theresa May with her demand for a poll between autumn 2018 and spring 2019 before Brexit is finalised. Ms Sturgeon and Mrs May engaged in an extraordinary public row today, swapping jibes over the prospects of the referendum.

**~~Egyptian~~** · 03-14-2017, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Raine

Get to the back of the queue! Spain warns Sturgeon that Scotland will have to reapply for EU membership and adopt the euro if it votes for independence

Spain today warned Scotland it would be at the 'back of the queue' for EU membership if it voted for independence. Foreign minister Alfonso Dastis said Spain would do nothing to encourage 'secession' in other countries. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has unveiled plans for a snap re-run of the 2014 independence referendum in a bid to preserve Scotland's place in Europe.

The SNP leader has infuriated Prime Minister Theresa May with her demand for a poll between autumn 2018 and spring 2019 before Brexit is finalised. Ms Sturgeon and Mrs May engaged in an extraordinary public row today, swapping jibes over the prospects of the referendum.

Spain wants U.K to demolish (to recontrol of Gibraltar) and in the same time Spain afraid if Scotland got independence that will motivate catalonia and other parts to ask for independence equal as what going to happen in U.K