(Split) Should we feel sympathy for Iraqis (or other non-Europeans/non-"whites") killed in warfare?

[Vasconcelos]

It was aimed at Austin, but you can reply aswell if you see it fit.

[Harcos]

^ This is our enemy. And how do you deal with an enemy ?

You bomb 'em back to the year dot. That's how simple it is. And since we also have an enemy within they too should be dealth with using the most harshest ways at our disposal. And even when we would have a proper government that would be a government for Europe's preservation then we should still commit troops there until they will forever relinquish every claim on European soil and give up. Unconditional surrender.


My problem with this entire war is more and more not that they killed so many but that they lied about it.

Naturally I condemn the muslim immigration, and I would seek forth to deport them from Europe, along with other immigrants. But they are not our enemies. No one knows about the terror of the Jews/Zionists as much as the muslims do, from the formation of Israel, the bad conditions and crimes in Gaza and the West Bank, to the wars and imposing western democracy and laws on Iraq and Afghanistan.

This is all a provocation of conflict between the West and the Muslim world. Europeans are being provoked into hating muslims through mass immigration and the constant fear of muslim terrorism the media spews out, and the muslims are being provoked into hating Europe and the West through the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. This is a well-planned provocation, caused by a certain people in the Middle East, who only cares about their own prosperity and expansion. They want us to hate eachother, they want us to go to war with eachother because it would be beneficial for them, and they are laughing at our stupidity for not realising it.

It is sad, how only a few people will recognise this and understand how these two sides are being played against one another and how many of both our people die blind in this game while Israel profits and expands its dominion.

Europeans, Muslims and all Goyims must wake up, and unite in the struggle against the common foe.

Recognise your true enemy.

[blan]

There's way too much testosterone in this thread.

Anyway, try not to kill one another while some of us sleep. I'd hate to have to hose off bits and pieces of you all off the sidewalk tomorrow morning when I come back.

its not me killing people you have to worry about its austin and his crew

[anonymaus]

its not me killing people you have to worry about its austin and his crew

You think Austin is capable of, or willing to, kill people because he doesn't care if people he doesn't know - and has no attachment to whatsoever - are killed by others?

Who are his "crew"?

[poiuytrewq0987]

You think Austin is capable of, or willing to, kill people because he doesn't care if people he doesn't know - and has no attachment to whatsoever - are killed by others?

Who are his "crew"?

Himself, an AR-15 and 2,000 5.56 rounds.

[blan]

You think Austin is capable of, or willing to, kill people because he doesn't care if people he doesn't know - and has no attachment to whatsoever - are killed by others?

Who are his "crew"?

it was sarcasm i dont think austin is able to kill people , he talks about death and violence as if its some sort of c est la vie everyday thing.
well i know what death looks like and i know what violence looks like and i have seen it with my eyes in life not threw a tv or computer screen,
a child dieing in a pile of trash is a upsetting site that stays in your mind for years after, it does not matter if that child is white, negro or arab.
rich boys who talk about there fellow country men and people abroad dieing in wars as they sit with the comforts of civil peace in there home lose respect

[anonymaus]

it was sarcasm i dont think austin is able to kill people , he talks about death and violence as if its some sort of c est la vie everyday thing.
well i know what death looks like and i know what violence looks like and i have seen it with my eyes in life not threw a tv or computer screen,
a child dieing in a pile of trash is a upsetting site that stays in your mind for years after, it does not matter if that child is white, negro or arab.
rich boys who talk about there fellow country men and people abroad dieing in wars as they sit with the comforts of civil peace in there home lose respect

My apologies, I genuinely didn't detect the sarcasm. As for your other comment, I tried to get to the heart of that matter in this thread but lacking the deeply personal rage people feel about George W. Bush and GW2 it did not really catch fire like I expected.

[Innar]

You people missed the point completely.
Aemma is the real serial killer.

[la bombe]

I liked the video where all those guys got blasted to bits by the helicopter.

Who likes that? Humans are sick creatures.

[Stygian Cellarius]

its not me killing people you have to worry about its austin and his crew

...and me. Don't forget me

Anyways,

Should we feel sympathy for Iraqi casualties of war? What rational reason can be presented for any European/American to experience sympathy in response to their destruction? I can think of none.

Sympathy can be rationally explained from an evolutionary perspective. Projecting sympathy designed for ones own group, onto another, cannot and is actually in conflict with other survival-based, evolutionary programs.

Any response to the question answering in the affirmative will likely fail to rationally explain why sympathy should be experienced.

I have a feeling that extant affects of our traditional, universal Christian morality may instill an irrational default opinion within us that we should experience sympathy towards them, but I don't believe it's rational, nor desirable.

Scenario 1:

• Enemy X vows to kill you and your family.
• An individual of Enemy X is crying with dead soldier in their arms.

Would you feel sympathy? Probably. Is it rational? Not at all. Their existence is a threat to yours and your family's. Logically, the appropriate response is to rejoice.

Scenario 2:

• Enemy Y are robots that appear human and vow to kill you and your family.
• Enemy Y is programmed to cry if its baby robot breaks.
• An individual of Enemy Y is crying with broken baby in its arms.

Would you feel sympathy? Yes, but only because you yourself are programed to under certain sensory configurations. This scenario emulated one of those configurations. Therefore you experience sympathy. Is it rational? Clearly not.

I am trying to approach this from a purely rational point of view. If someone can present a logical reason why we should feel sympathy then I will adopt that point of view.