Don't trust My heritage results after these Mdlp K16 nMonte results

**firemonkey** · 03-16-2017, 10:39 AM

Some very iffy results.

First Europe inc Armenia,Azerbaijan and Georgia

[1] "distance%=9.4678 / distance=0.094678"

hg
"Irish_Connacht" 47.75
"Swedes" 33.3
"Orcadian" 12.15
"Ashkenazy" 6.8

Europe N& W N using(Denmark,0.0121,0.0012,0.1963,0.025,0.0017,0. 0009,0.1868,0.0036,0.2659,0.0094,0.2452,0.0079,0.0 091,0.011,0.0013,0.0228
Dutch,0.0061,0.0013,0.2189,0.0098,0.0034,0.005,0.1 99,0,0.2754,0,0.264,0.0022,0.0016,0.0062,0,0.007
English,0.0015,0.0017,0.2283,0.0284,0.0062,0,0.176 2,0.0018,0.2532,0,0.2808,0.0083,0.0035,0.0012,0.00 53,0.0038
English_Cornwall_GBR,0.0038,0.003,0.2418,0.0171,0. 0058,0.0028,0.1559,0.0045,0.2603,0.0002,0.2903,0.0 078,0.0028,0.0013,0.0001,0.0025
English_Kent_GBR,0.0055,0.0013,0.2372,0.0092,0.001 3,0.0038,0.1562,0.0015,0.2607,0.0011,0.3067,0.0069 ,0.0018,0.0018,0,0.005
Estonia,0.0068,0.0023,0.1931,0.0083,0.0047,0.0027, 0.1582,0.0019,0.3509,0.0005,0.197,0.0011,0.0018,0. 0279,0.0062,0.0364
Estonian,0.0038,0.0037,0.2019,0.0043,0.0052,0.0029 ,0.1587,0.0044,0.3802,0.0001,0.198,0.0004,0.0037,0 .0247,0.0015,0.0063
Estonians,0.0062,0.001,0.2085,0.006,0.0083,0.003,0 .1587,0.0026,0.3614,0,0.2033,0,0.0026,0.0253,0,0.0 016
Finland_North,0.0101,0.001,0.1988,0.0067,0.0067,0. 0021,0.1254,0.0032,0.3338,0.0009,0.1903,0.001,0.00 26,0.0795,0.0046,0.0331
Finland_South,0.01,0.002,0.196,0.0116,0.0057,0.002 8,0.1249,0.003,0.3322,0.0024,0.2039,0.0013,0.0019, 0.0647,0.004,0.0338
Finn-East,0.0091,0.0005,0.2278,0.0014,0.0134,0.0049,0.1 333,0.0006,0.3382,0,0.1835,0.0085,0.0011,0.0672,0. 0104,0
Finn-West,0.0152,0.0041,0.2094,0.013,0.0034,0,0.1468,0. 0035,0.3274,0,0.2237,0.0056,0.0105,0.0374,0,0
Finnish,0.0154,0,0.2215,0,0.0076,0.0011,0.1357,0.0 034,0.3392,0,0.1984,0,0.0048,0.0707,0,0.0029
Finnish_FIN,0.0036,0.0043,0.1795,0.0031,0.0133,0.0 028,0.1483,0.006,0.3844,0.0049,0.1749,0.0058,0.002 8,0.0627,0.0038,0
France,0.0055,0.0027,0.1758,0.008,0.0011,0.0018,0. 2053,0.0023,0.2084,0.0123,0.309,0.0194,0.006,0.009 9,0.0055,0.0269
French,0.0036,0.002,0.219,0.0048,0.0018,0.0033,0.1 727,0.0025,0.2293,0.005,0.3308,0.0099,0.0044,0.003 8,0.0045,0.0027
French_East,0.0018,0.0025,0.1887,0.0068,0.0114,0.0 034,0.2095,0.0019,0.2294,0.0129,0.3004,0.0191,0.00 55,0.0023,0.0029,0.0014
French_Northwest,0.0051,0.0048,0.1923,0.0097,0.003 8,0.0007,0.2068,0.0022,0.2272,0.0136,0.3002,0.0129 ,0.0039,0.0032,0.0109,0.0029
French_West,0.0068,0.0037,0.2195,0.018,0.0034,0.00 22,0.1738,0.0013,0.253,0.0021,0.2954,0.0101,0.0022 ,0.006,0.0016,0.0011
German,0.0045,0.005,0.196,0.0151,0.0036,0.0021,0.1 926,0.0011,0.274,0.0067,0.2571,0.0061,0.0035,0.020 4,0.001,0.0112
German_Lipsian,0.0059,0.0027,0.2022,0.0093,0.0014, 0.006,0.2118,0.0022,0.2755,0.003,0.2602,0.007,0.00 14,0.0087,0.0006,0.002
Germans,0.0017,0.0002,0.1916,0.0083,0.0001,0,0.203 4,0.0012,0.2337,0,0.3017,0.0171,0.0025,0,0,0
Germany_North,0.0051,0.002,0.195,0.0116,0.0027,0.0 017,0.1881,0.0036,0.2737,0.0039,0.2579,0.0055,0.00 44,0.0097,0.0041,0.031
Germany_South,0.0066,0.0041,0.1775,0.0097,0.0019,0 .0026,0.2155,0.0016,0.2447,0.0082,0.2708,0.0103,0. 0058,0.0077,0.0046,0.0284
Icelandic,0.0051,0.0018,0.2488,0.0104,0.0014,0.000 8,0.1362,0.0022,0.304,0.0021,0.2663,0.0048,0.0043, 0.0056,0.0037,0.0024
Ingrians,0.0058,0.0029,0.2097,0.0045,0.0088,0,0.14 52,0.0019,0.3393,0,0.1985,0.0001,0.0093,0.0486,0,0
Ireland,0.0149,0.0024,0.2079,0.042,0.0017,0.0017,0 .1597,0.0032,0.258,0.0082,0.2523,0.0145,0.0055,0.0 105,0.0002,0.0172
Irish_Connacht,0.0099,0.0022,0.2368,0.0108,0,0.004 8,0.1683,0.0022,0.2582,0.0007,0.2863,0.0037,0.0032 ,0.0089,0.0027,0.0012
Irish_Cork_Kerry,0.0098,0.0032,0.2402,0.0237,0.001 1,0.0042,0.165,0.0031,0.2532,0.0032,0.2808,0.0051, 0.0017,0.0042,0,0.0015
Irish_Leinster,0.005,0.001,0.2303,0.0278,0.0027,0. 0022,0.1666,0.0005,0.2532,0.0008,0.2841,0.0106,0.0 021,0.0103,0,0.0028
Irish_Munster,0.0093,0.0005,0.2339,0.0215,0.0047,0 .0011,0.1758,0.0009,0.2595,0.0002,0.2723,0.0051,0. 0048,0.0084,0.0004,0.0015
Irish_Ulster,0.0077,0.0052,0.2335,0.0239,0.0029,0. 0043,0.1586,0,0.2598,0,0.287,0.0033,0.0011,0.0077, 0.0012,0.004
Karelian,0.0097,0.0046,0.1933,0.0123,0.0058,0.001, 0.1348,0.0034,0.3442,0.0003,0.1927,0.0017,0.004,0. 0753,0.0005,0.0163
Karelians,0.0048,0,0.1957,0.0107,0.0165,0,0.1419,0 ,0.3544,0,0.1879,0.0068,0.0012,0.0711,0,0
Latvia,0.0081,0.0021,0.1897,0.0077,0.0026,0.0026,0 .168,0.0029,0.3543,0.0039,0.1996,0.0025,0.0034,0.0 136,0.0051,0.0339
Latvian,0.00805,0.00575,0.1944,0.0069,0.00045,0.00 625,0.1634,0.00075,0.38085,0,0.20745,0.001,0.00025 ,0.01785,0.00065,0.006
Latvian_Cesis,0.006,0,0.2102,0.0089,0.0203,0,0.171 1,0,0.3838,0,0.1643,0.0092,0.0067,0.014,0,0.0056
Latvian_Dobele,0.002,0.0034,0.2095,0.0101,0.0099,0 .0068,0.1511,0.0049,0.3824,0,0.2047,0,0,0.0153,0,0
Lithuania,0.0066,0.003,0.1846,0.0036,0.0019,0.0035 ,0.1708,0.0022,0.3611,0.0021,0.2002,0.0027,0.0037, 0.0154,0.0064,0.0321
Lithuanian,0.0022,0.0028,0.1957,0.00235,0.00115,0. 00125,0.1879,0.00155,0.37645,0.0006,0.19635,0.0011 5,0.0063,0.00995,0.00205,0.0083
Norwegian,0.0053,0.0024,0.244,0.0075,0.0042,0.0034 ,0.1442,0.0015,0.3032,0.0008,0.2681,0.0036,0.0016, 0.0071,0.0008,0.0023
Orcadian,0.0087,0.0014,0.2564,0.0082,0.0026,0.0019 ,0.1434,0.0032,0.281,0.0029,0.276,0.0027,0.0034,0. 0021,0.0024,0.0037
Saami,0.033,0.0028,0.1634,0.0155,0.045,0.004,0.083 3,0,0.3102,0,0.127,0,0,0.1983,0.0048,0
Saami_WGA,0.0141,0.0019,0.161,0,0.0416,0.0036,0.10 66,0,0.3886,0,0.0956,0.0068,0.0051,0.1712,0.002,0. 002
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR,0.0057,0.0017,0.2626,0.00 79,0.0069,0.0004,0.1497,0.0051,0.2738,0,0.2699,0.0 027,0.0013,0.0068,0.0031,0.0024
Scottish_Borders,0.008,0.0034,0.2148,0.0251,0.0024 ,0,0.1718,0.0013,0.2623,0.0006,0.2845,0.0124,0.006 ,0.0068,0.0003,0.0002
Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway,0.0056,0.0033,0.2237,0. 0121,0.0033,0.003,0.1814,0,0.2608,0.0016,0.2795,0. 0126,0.0031,0.006,0.0035,0.0006
Scottish_Fife,0.0074,0.0033,0.2216,0.0214,0.0057,0 .0018,0.1817,0.0035,0.2559,0.0013,0.2783,0.0056,0. 0058,0.0021,0.0009,0.0037
Scottish_Grampian,0.0046,0.0016,0.2279,0.0203,0.00 5,0.0005,0.1751,0.0051,0.2507,0.0006,0.2839,0.007, 0.004,0.0106,0,0.0031
Scottish_Highlands,0.01,0.0019,0.2296,0.0184,0.002 6,0.005,0.171,0.004,0.2593,0.0041,0.2826,0.002,0.0 041,0.0028,0.0003,0.0025
Shetlandic,0.0041,0.0028,0.2296,0.0183,0.006,0.001 9,0.1706,0.0006,0.2688,0.0006,0.2807,0.0031,0.0042 ,0.0073,0.0002,0.0013
Sweden,0.01,0.0017,0.2059,0.01,0.0021,0.0014,0.169 2,0.0015,0.284,0.0019,0.2503,0.0039,0.0056,0.0185, 0.0026,0.0315
Swedes,0.0113,0.0019,0.2192,0.0094,0.0008,0.0008,0 .1673,0,0.3024,0,0.2566,0.0102,0.0032,0.0157,0,0.0 01
Swedish,0.0046,0.0047,0.2187,0.005,0.0017,0.0024,0 .165,0.0041,0.3043,0.0001,0.267,0.0029,0.0036,0.01 ,0.0003,0.0058
Switzerland,0.0058,0.0041,0.1552,0.01,0.0033,0.003 ,0.2479,0.004,0.1843,0.0246,0.2769,0.0292,0.0063,0 .0115,0.0073,0.0266
Vepsa,0.0094,0.0038,0.1816,0.0182,0.0085,0.0013,0. 1457,0.0009,0.3491,0.0004,0.1853,0.0018,0.0049,0.0 727,0.0002,0.0162
Vepsas,0.0145,0.002,0.1862,0.0122,0.0105,0.0049,0. 1446,0.0014,0.3482,0,0.1809,0,0.004,0.0844,0,0
Welsh,0.0032,0.0005,

That gives: [1] "distance%=9.589 / distance=0.09589"

hg
"Irish_Connacht" 38.3
"Scottish_Highlands" 29.35
"Swedes" 27
"German_Lipsian" 3.1
"Switzerland" 2.25

Second one makes more sense but unless I am doing something really wrong these distances seem way off!!

My heritage gedmatch results

Population
Amerindian 1.04
Ancestor -
Steppe 23.30
Indian 0.88
Arctic -
Australian 0.30
Caucasian 18.57
EastAfrican -
NorthEastEuropean 27.12
NearEast -
Neolithic 27.87
NorthAfrican 0.92
Oceanic -
Siberian -
SouthEastAsian -
Subsaharian -

Using AVG-modern

[1] "distance%=4.595 / distance=0.04595"

hg
"Belgian" 63.55
"Orcadian" 27.5
"Piapoco" 8.6
"English_Kent_GBR" 0.35

Piapoco!!- Indian tribe!!

Using Avg-old. Slightly better distance but still very off. Results way off!!

1] "distance%=3.4981 / distance=0.034981"

hg
"English_Cornwall_GBR" 41.4
"Czech" 37.6
"Swede" 8.9
"Piapoco" 3.3
"Bolivian_LaPaz" 3.2
"Basque_French" 3.15
"Karitiana" 2.45

**firemonkey** · 03-16-2017, 08:14 PM

Duh! Had the decimal point in the wrong place for one target category.

European inc Armenia,Azerbaijan and Georgia

[1] "distance%=1.0509 / distance=0.010509"

hg
"English_Kent_GBR" 50.65
"Polish_East" 27.6
"Orcadian" 19.2
"Georgian_WGA" 2.55
"Norwegian" 0

Europe N& W

[1] "distance%=1.254 / distance=0.01254"

hg
"Dutch" 46.3
"Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway" 20.05
"English_Kent_GBR" 16.2
"Orcadian" 10.4
"Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR" 4.25
"Germans" 2.8

AVG modern

[1] "distance%=1.0444 / distance=0.010444"

hg
"English_Kent_GBR" 46
"Polish_East" 24.8
"Orcadian" 21.15
"Belgian" 5.55
"Georgian_WGA" 2.5

UK only

[1] "distance%=1.6663 / distance=0.016663"

hg
"Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway" 85.6
"Orcadian" 14.4

AVG old

[1] "distance%=1.1653 / distance=0.011653"

hg
"Irish" 33.3
"Slovak" 21.1
"Dutch" 18.2
"Spanish-North" 17.6
"Lithuanian_Zemajitia" 9.8

Much better. Here is my dad's Euro inc Armenia etc(FTDNA data)

[1] "distance%=1.7252 / distance=0.017252"

tg
"English_Kent_GBR" 79.9
"Belarusian" 11.75
"Georgian_WGA" 4.65
"Croatian" 3.7

**~~RenaRyuguu~~** · 10-21-2021, 12:16 AM

I trust myheritage more than 23andme tho I mean it was the only test that somewhat scored me right.

El_Jibaro · 10-21-2021, 12:34 AM

Yeah, duh.

**MandM** · 10-21-2021, 06:29 AM

On myheritage here in sweden they hade a live feedback i think it was 1 year ago they them selfs said that you shuld not focus on the regions you get, if you get under 25% they said that is the same as if you would get 0% so for example you get let say 24% or less scandinavian, balkan or what ever that is the same as you get 0% you sould instead look at the etnicetiy group/groups you get becouse they are far more accurete.