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    Please classify the members of Israel's almost solely American-Jewish baseball team;

    Pitchers

    19 Dylan Axelrod



    38 Corey Baker



    27 Jeremy Bleich



    54 Richard Bleier



    32 Craig Breslow



    41 Danny Burawa



    39 Jake Fishman




    33 Tyler Herron




    35 Jake Kalish



    25 Alex Katz




    4 Kenny Koplove




    17 Dean Kremer




    26 Jared Lakind



    21 Jason Marquis



    44 Troy Neiman



    16 R.C. Orlan



    72 Ryan Sherriff



    46 Zack Thornton



    6 Joey Wagman



    28 Josh Zeid

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    Catchers

    9 Nick Rickles



    36 Ryan Lavarnway



    Infielders

    5 Scott Burcham




    14 Cody Decker




    22 Tyler Krieger




    45 Nate Freiman



    29 Ike Davis




    56 Ty Kelly



    Outfielders

    18 Zach Borenstein



    23 Sam Fuld



    2 Blake Gailen

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    Lots of people here, so not going to classify each individual. I'll focus on general trends.

    First, to me, they pass best in France, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria as a group. Their overall phenotypes trend more those typical in Central Europe, towards slightly southern Europe. In terms of phenotypes, I'd say most common blends are Atlanto-Med with minor Alpine maybe, Atlanto-Med with Dinarid, and Alpine-Dinarid (towards Dinarid). I'm wondering if a couple are either not Ashkenazi or are mixed (Kelly, Burcham, and Orlan in particular). Some also have some degree of Taurid influence (hard for me to say to what degree either Armenoid or Dinarid).

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    38 Corey Baker
    Mediterranid+Taurid

    54 Richard Bleier
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Probably one of the parrents is Paleo Atlantid wnd the other is Small Med

    32 Craig Breslow
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Huns looking
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    Huns 400-500 AD or Hunno-Bulgars[more precisely the Blak Bulgarians - Kutriguri] 500-700 AD - Europoid Mongoloid mix
    [White Bulgarians are Onogurs and then Tatars]
    R1a Z-2123

    41 Danny Burawa
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    North Pontid - Armenoid
    -------------
    Bulgars-Utigurs

    33 Tyler Herron
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Sarmatian Alans
    -------------
    R1a Z-2122

    25 Alex Katz
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Mountain Jews יהודי קווקז
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    Bulgars-Utigurs
    Van-Bulgars

    17 Dean Kremer
    Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
    one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

    26 Jared Lakind
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Central Asiatic

    21 Jason Marquis
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    South East Caucasus - Front Asiatic

    44 Troy Neiman
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Red Nordid - Taurid

    16 R.C. Orlan
    Sephardic
    Persian Jews
    -------------
    Tatars

    72 Ryan Sherriff
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    South Caucasus

    46 Zack Thornton
    Pontid+Oriental
    Sephardic
    -------------
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    -------------
    common today Bulgaria

    6 Joey Wagman
    Sephardic distant
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid[distant oriental]

    28 Josh Zeid
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Asiatic

    9 Nick Rickles
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Central Asiatic
    -------------
    common today Tatarstan Tatars
    common today Bulgaria
    R1a Z-2123

    36 Ryan Lavarnway
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic

    14 Cody Decker
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Asiatic

    22 Tyler Krieger
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Sephardic early Cohen - distant
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    Sarmatian Roxolan
    3 of the East Slavic tribes - South Russia Ukraina
    Rumania
    R1a Z-280

    45 Nate Freiman
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Asiatic

    29 Ike Davis
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Pontoid-Caucasiod-Front Asiatic +
    Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
    one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

    56 Ty Kelly
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    predominant
    Atlantid-Ladogan[Finno-Ugrian]-Taurid
    -------------
    subdominant
    Caucasoid-Pontoid

    18 Zach Borenstein
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Red Nordid - Taurid

    23 Sam Fuld
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    North Pontid


    2 Blake Gailen
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Nordo-Cromagnoid
    Nord Pontid - Falid
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    Irano-Nordid
    Cromagnoid D

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousWays View Post
    Lots of people here, so not going to classify each individual. I'll focus on general trends.

    First, to me, they pass best in France, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria as a group. Their overall phenotypes trend more those typical in Central Europe, towards slightly southern Europe. In terms of phenotypes, I'd say most common blends are Atlanto-Med with minor Alpine maybe, Atlanto-Med with Dinarid, and Alpine-Dinarid (towards Dinarid). I'm wondering if a couple are either not Ashkenazi or are mixed (Kelly, Burcham, and Orlan in particular). Some also have some degree of Taurid influence (hard for me to say to what degree either Armenoid or Dinarid).
    Yes, only a couple eg Bleich, R.C. Orlan look specifically "Jewish."

    Many are mixed eg Kelly etc reflecting the fact 75% of non-Orthodox Jews now marry a non-Jewish spouse in America (with the majority of their children maintaining some Jewish identity).

    About half have blue eyes (about average, or a little above the average, for Ashkenazi Jews in my experience) & don't look specifically "ethnic" although I agree with you that they tend towards looking Central European. I'd say that many still retain some "exotic" features compared to your average non-Jewish Central European (convex nose shape etc) but most are white by even the strictest taxonomic measure although Scott Burcham looks mixed-race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellerin View Post
    38 Corey Baker
    Mediterranid+Taurid

    54 Richard Bleier
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Probably one of the parrents is Paleo Atlantid wnd the other is Small Med

    32 Craig Breslow
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Huns looking
    -------------
    Huns 400-500 AD or Hunno-Bulgars[more precisely the Blak Bulgarians - Kutriguri] 500-700 AD - Europoid Mongoloid mix
    [White Bulgarians are Onogurs and then Tatars]
    R1a Z-2123

    41 Danny Burawa
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    North Pontid - Armenoid
    -------------
    Bulgars-Utigurs

    33 Tyler Herron
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Sarmatian Alans
    -------------
    R1a Z-2122

    25 Alex Katz
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Mountain Jews יהודי קווקז
    -------------
    Bulgars-Utigurs
    Van-Bulgars

    17 Dean Kremer
    Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
    one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

    26 Jared Lakind
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Central Asiatic

    21 Jason Marquis
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    South East Caucasus - Front Asiatic

    44 Troy Neiman
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Red Nordid - Taurid

    16 R.C. Orlan
    Sephardic
    Persian Jews
    -------------
    Tatars

    72 Ryan Sherriff
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    South Caucasus

    46 Zack Thornton
    Pontid+Oriental
    Sephardic
    -------------
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    -------------
    common today Bulgaria

    6 Joey Wagman
    Sephardic distant
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid[distant oriental]

    28 Josh Zeid
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Asiatic

    9 Nick Rickles
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Central Asiatic
    -------------
    common today Tatarstan Tatars
    common today Bulgaria
    R1a Z-2123

    36 Ryan Lavarnway
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Pontoid - Caucasoic

    14 Cody Decker
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Asiatic

    22 Tyler Krieger
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Sephardic early Cohen - distant
    -------------
    Sarmatian Roxolan
    3 of the East Slavic tribes - South Russia Ukraina
    Rumania
    R1a Z-280

    45 Nate Freiman
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Front Asiatic

    29 Ike Davis
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    Pontoid-Caucasiod-Front Asiatic +
    Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
    one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

    56 Ty Kelly
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Mizrahi מזרחים
    predominant
    Atlantid-Ladogan[Finno-Ugrian]-Taurid
    -------------
    subdominant
    Caucasoid-Pontoid

    18 Zach Borenstein
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Red Nordid - Taurid

    23 Sam Fuld
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    North Pontid


    2 Blake Gailen
    Ashkenazi אשכנזי
    Nordo-Cromagnoid
    Nord Pontid - Falid
    -------------
    Irano-Nordid
    Cromagnoid D
    Well done.

    Zach Borenstein does look East Nordid.



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