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    Default Turks are Iranids who mixed with Mongolians around 1250 AD

    The rapid expansion led by Genghis Khan and the subsequent Mongol empire (1206-1368CE: 1) is one of the most dramatic events in human history. One population believed to be at least partly descended from these Mongols, based on historical, linguistic and oral tradition, and unusual patterns of Y-chromosome male descent, are the Hazara from Pakistan (2, 3). In our analysis, which uses only autosomal genetic data, we independently infer this population to show the clearest signal of admixture in the entire dataset, with an admixture event occurring 22 (19-24) generations in the past, or 1306CE (1250-1390CE), between a source similar to the Iranians (55% contribution), and a source most closely similar among our sampled groups to present-day Mongolians (45%), confirming that both the date and origin of admixture link precisely to the Mongol empire. In fact we find that the Hazara are just one of seven populations (four among the top 20 clearest signals), including the Uyghur (4) and the Mongola themselves, who show an admixture event between a local source and a source closely genetically related to the Mongola, dating within the Mongol Period (Figure 2D). These populations were all sampled from within the range of the Mongol expansion and show a progressive westward decrease in Mongol ancestry. We however note that the slightly earlier date in the Turkish of 1250AD (1166-1362) is not inconsistent with other known Turkic pre-Genghis movements from East Asia, such as the Oghuz Turks (1).



    Side 1 (Mongola-like)
    Mongola (3.7%)
    Oroqen (1.3%)
    Hazara (0.6%)
    Naxi (0.4%)
    Yakut (0.4%)
    Miao (0.3

    Side 2 (Iranian-like)


    Analysis: FullAnalysis
    Number of individuals: 17
    Conclusion: One date
    Estimated date (95% CI): 1250CE (1166CE - 1362CE)
    Estimated proportion: 0.08
    View: mixing coefficients

    http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

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    This is obvious to anyone who isn't a Turk.
    書堂개 삼 년에 풍월 읊는다

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    Why are the Greeks worrying so much about Turkish genetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    Why are the Greeks worrying so much about Turkish genetics
    Well, we don't teach your genetics in our school textbooks like you teach that we aren't descendants of Ancient Hellenes.
    書堂개 삼 년에 풍월 읊는다

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    Does not worry me, you can be the descendant of anybody you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    Does not worry me, you can be the descendant of anybody you like.
    fair enough, but this is actually interesting from an objective point of view.
    書堂개 삼 년에 풍월 읊는다

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    Modern Turks (from Turkei) actually have a very low percentage of East Eurasian admixture, only three percent more than the English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Modern Turks (from Turkei) actually have a very low percentage of East Eurasian admixture, only three percent more than the English.
    LoL this thread funny this post even more. Someone who know nothing about us comes here and read this post: what he thinks? Turks pretend they are Chinese! Drama!
    Yeah I will deny muself and try to be low class Euro or Arab and try to assimilate. This is such Dramatic end for nation of Turks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Well, we don't teach your genetics in our school textbooks like you teach that we aren't descendants of Ancient Hellenes.
    Well , That's true tho..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Modern Turks (from Turkei) actually have a very low percentage of East Eurasian admixture, only three percent more than the English.
    English have some Turkic admixture too.

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