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    Default Why did the Ustasha persecuted the Orthodox Serbs but not against

    the Muslim Bosniaks? Are Bosniaks racially closer to Croats, or they like islam more then orthodoxy?

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    In Croatian Nazi State (Ustashes) 1941-45 (NDH) Bosnia & Bosniak people were considered as Islamized Croats so Croatian Ustashes formed entire Bosniak SS Division in Bosnia.

    Croatian Nazi State considered Bosniaks as Aryans (They viewed them as Croats who took Islamic religion in Bosnia) and Serbs were viewed as subhumans.

    Nazis didn't hate Muslims, so when Croatian Nazi Govermont decided to incorporate Bosniaks into Ustasha SS divisions Hitler didn't protested, why would he? Hitler in fact supported Muslims a lot whenever he needed their support in various parts of world.

    Bosinak ppl can talk whatever they want here, but they were part of Ustasha Nazi ideology in WW2 in Bosnia, no offence, just historical fact.

    And why hate toward Serbs?

    Because Croatian Nazi State wanted to get rid of all Serbs from Croatia & Bosnia, because it was thought back in NDH (Croatian Nazi state) that Serbs are like a cancer of those areas, who came there when they fled from Ottomans, and Croatian Nazis hated them like Hitler hated Jews.

    Croatian Nazi State considered Serbs as natural mortal enemy which one has to eradicate by all means necessary, both Serbs and Orthodox religion.

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    This one is a no brainer dude. Serbs were seen as a pretentious enemy and starting with 19th century politician Starcevic (Ustasha were influenced by him) Bosniaks were seen as Croats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woah View Post
    This one is a no brainer dude. Serbs were seen as a pretentious enemy and starting with 19th century politician Starcevic (Ustasha were influenced by him) Bosniaks were seen as Croats.
    Well by Autosomal DNA Bosniaks are closer to Croats than to Serbs. Means Bosniaks are by Autosomal DNA somethin in between Croats and Serbs but closer to Croats.

    Autosomal DNA maps:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    the Muslim Bosniaks? Are Bosniaks racially closer to Croats, or they like islam more then orthodoxy?
    There is no doubt that Saxons/Goths (in the broader sense) can use Islam as an instrument, but the same they cannot do with Orthodox Slavs. And most of the times in history they try to kill whatever they can't conquer.

    But there is another reason as well : Saxons/Goths have targeted to finish off the Muslims, the Slavs and the Latins, in this order. (3 ppls/nations that are compatible in various ways). If you notice the final stage for world wide Saxon domination started in Jugoslavija 1991 by igniting a fake war between Muslims and Orthodox. Later they killed as many Muslims and Orthodox as their heart desired.

    Finally I don't blame Croats, they didn't have the slightest chance to resist. They were manipulated into killing their own people. Before 1999 Croats would go to Kosovo and Skopje and still be understood. Soon this will not be even possible.

    Slavic lands are shrinking. This is the goal.

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    Also I want to add this; durin the war in Bosnia 1992-95, there was an army formed entirely on Ustasha ideology, army was called HOS.

    And it was made of Croats and Bosniaks in Bosnia, their mortal enemy were Serbs in Bosnia.


    Later on (a paradox) Croatian official Army in Bosnia and Herzegovina called HVO came in conflict with HOS (which was also Croatian army, but with Bosniaks, interesting thing those Bosniaks in HOS army considered themselves as Croats of Islam religion).

    HOS was finally destroyed by HVO in Bosnia, and leader of HOS (Croatian Blaž Kraljević was killed).

    HVO (Official Croatian Army in Bosnia) had other plans in Bosnia, for Croats only, and many times they went into alliances with Serbs from Bosnia, it was a mess.

    I heard that many Bosniak ppl from HOS unit even today consider themselves in Bosnia as Croats of Islamic religion, other Bosniaks laughs at them because of that, but they feel that way about themselves.

    HOS Anthem song from war 1992-95 (As one can see that unit was based totally on Ustasha ideology, in the start of song it says; For Homeland ready and for Pavelić - Croatian Fuhrer from WW2)




    In the end, here is a map of NDH (Croatian Nazi State) 1941-45:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
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    Serbs from B&H are quite shifted towards Croats too. They would be on the same place as Bosniaks in that map.

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    What's up with the nazi uniform Mortimer ? Aren't you chetnik supporter ?
    Anyway being Gypsy from Serbia answer to this topic is well known to you.

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    Well, Mortimer I don't get the point of this thread, just rely on historical facts Robocop explained very well. Truth lives in facts, historical facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    And why hate toward Serbs?

    Because Croatian Nazi State wanted to get rid of all Serbs from Croatia & Bosnia, because it was thought back in NDH (Croatian Nazi state) that Serbs are like a cancer of those areas, who came there when they fled from Ottomans, and Croatian Nazis hated them like Hitler hated Jews.
    Slavs fled from whatever the place in the last 1500 years, the greatest similarities to slavic placenames from my region in Greece are not found in Bulgaria, Makedonija or Srbija, but FBiH and HR. So the theory above sounds silly. Serbs (being the greatest warriors in the region) were employed by the Austros to protect their borders. Same thing the Turks did with the south Serbs. Basically many austro-turkish wars in the region was between Krajna Serbs vs south Serbs/Slavs.

    So what you describe as the basic reason for this hatred is fake and idiotic. A bunch of local criminals (called as "croat nationalists") are used by the west to destroy more Slavs. Nothing more nothing less. Just like "Pravi sektor" and "Svoboda" in Ukraine. Doesn't take a genius to see the parallels.

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