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    Default Good blog post on the possibility of higher "Slavic" input in Peloponnese

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/0...tion-bias.html

    This is what I was saying.

    The population replacement may have happened, but not by Polish-like people, rather Bulgarian-like people. Hence why Peloponnesians do not plot exactly with Sicilians and Italians.

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    Up to 14% genuine NE European input is not low, though... this is more Slavic than some Brits are Anglo-Saxon.

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    So if they were Bulgarian like, then we dont have real Slavs moving into the area. We have a mostly slavicized population with majority native genes.

    Anyways, I dont believe they were Bulgarian like, Slavs from their homeland moved into the Peloponnese the same time they moved into the rest of the balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    So if they were Bulgarian like, then we dont have real Slavs moving into the area. We have a mostly slavicized population with majority native genes.

    Anyways, I dont believe they were Bulgarian like, Slavs from their homeland moved into the Peloponnese the same time they moved into the rest of the balkans.
    I think they would have acquired native admixture as they move south.

    If the question is genuine NE Euro genes in Peloponnese, it's present but low. If it is of how much of the original population was replaced, it could have been very high if we assume the invaders to be like Bulgarians rather than like Russians.

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    The comments on Eurogenes blog are highly ignorant and innacurate, also Davinski's bias and ignorance about Greek history is shining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/0...tion-bias.html

    This is what I was saying.

    The population replacement may have happened, but not by Polish-like people, rather Bulgarian-like people. Hence why Peloponnesians do not plot exactly with Sicilians and Italians.
    Wishing it happened won't make it so.

    The outdated and ludicrous view that Slavs replaced the Greeks in Peloponesse has been discredited by countless serious scholars.

    Fallmerayer had political motives to say the things he said about Greeks, it was against Austria's interests an Independent Greece. The Austro-Hungarian empire was one of the staunchest supporters of the Ottomans at the time.

    Fallmerayer was an alcoholic and a big hater of Greeks and so are you, and Davinski and anyone else who keep citing his discredited bigoted views. No historian or ethnographer to this day has ever taken Fallmerayer's work seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Up to 14% genuine NE European input is not low, though... this is more Slavic than some Brits are Anglo-Saxon.


    Which Brits, the Welsh?

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    Proud to be Slavs.

    Don't feed the troll.

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    I know it is accepted that the English aren't majority Anglo Saxon, but it's much higher than 14%. That's just getting carried away.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.c...s/amp/35344663

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