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    1) If non-EU is good for native population, then I'm pro. If non-EU is bad for native population, then I'm anti.
    2) If EU is good for native population, then I'm pro. If EU is bad for native population, then I'm anti.

    My eventual vote goes for neutral, since I have no clue how many things work inside their current policy

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    Anti, like most people here. In the referendum back then it was close to 50-50, but a lot of people regret their choice. EU had the biggest support by older people, and many of them are dead by now.

    In my electoral district 93% were against it

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    Absolutaly pro, although it needs a major overhaul. I believe that abandoning ship at the first sign of trouble after 60 years of hard work to get to the point that we are is extremely dumb, other than cowardly. And no I am not talking about the UK (as they were never really a part) but the central block of the founding countries (Belgium, France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg). Imagine where these 6 would be nowadays without the policies of free trade, movement, sharing of knowledge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado View Post
    Absolutaly pro,...
    What do you think about accusations that Germany is taking advantage of smaller/weaker members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado View Post
    Absolutaly pro, although it needs a major overhaul. I believe that abandoning ship at the first sign of trouble after 60 years of hard work to get to the point that we are is extremely dumb, other than cowardly. And no I am not talking about the UK (as they were never really a part) but the central block of the founding countries (Belgium, France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg). Imagine where these 6 would be nowadays without the policies of free trade, movement, sharing of knowledge...
    what overhaul does it need

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    I just don't see it. The EU is part of the US empire in Europe. All of America's "enemies" in Europe are outside of the EU and all their friends are in the EU. How many EU countries are not in NATO?
    The only argument for the EU is more economic. To compete with the US in economic ways, but the EU would never go against US interest. Look how fast they jumped on the "fuck Russia" bandwagon after the US did so.
    I don't think so. Trump was in favor of Brexit, and he would like the EU to break up. Don't forget his campaign slogans were "Make America great again" and "America first". He would like a competitor like the EU to be eliminated.
    And NATO is NOT the EU. Besides, although NATO is America's baby, Trump shows little interest for the defense of Europe. It's still too early to seriously talk about a united European army, that's why Europe must still rely on NATO, but this isn't enough, and each European nation must increase its military spending if we wish to have competitive European armed forces. Stuck between an ambitious Putin and an isolationist Trump, a united Europe is more than ever the best alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Era View Post
    What do you think about accusations that Germany is taking advantage of smaller/weaker members?
    They are absolutely founded. The German government is straight up leeching off of the other economies in the EU. The people of Germany are being fed lies and propaganda, most of the ones who are informed about this issue are disgusted by it because this kind of behaviour goes against their mentality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odin of Ossetia View Post
    what overhaul does it need
    A choice of direction, rather than a change. It looks like the heads of the Union don't really know what they want. Is it going to be a merely economic union or is it going to transform into a federal state where the decisions of the single regions are limited to internal politics only? I don't have a problem with either, but at the moment it's just a bad mish mash of the two and it sure doesn't look like this situation is going to hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Era View Post
    What do you think about accusations that Germany is taking advantage of smaller/weaker members?
    Why not save even more – for example, the billions in E.U. structural funds that go to Poland and Hungary, since those two countries refuse to take in refugees?

    Budgetary policy shouldn’t be used to impose political penalties. The structural funds are for making weak regions more competitive. And a large part of every euro the E.U. gives Poland comes back to Germany. The Poles use the money to place orders with the German construction industry, to buy German machines and German trucks. So net contributors such as Germany should be interested in the structural funds. From an economic perspective, Germany isn’t a net contributor but a net recipient.
    https://global.handelsblatt.com/poli...-to-e-u-714934

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin of Ossetia View Post
    fortunately at least this has been abolished.
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