The void of reason

[Psychonaut]

Gads, you're just full of all kinds of horrible ideas about what's good for the US, aren't you Void?

[Cato]

I'm sorry but I am a too strong European nationalist to desire a mix, though only cultural, with the USA. They share nothing in common with Europe and Europeans: do you know an European country which stll has the death penalty? Do you know an European country made only by immigrants? etc.etc.
Europeans are conservative, hard working, Europeans take in great consideration intellectuals, philosphers, historicians, E. are more classist.
I think that Europe in 10 centuries will still be a shining star on the planet, while America will get exhausted.
So... NO.

Colonists, and no more immigrants than the Italians who have Greek forefathers from the days of Magna Graecia.

As to exhaustion, like this?



“Other misfortunes may be borne, or their effects overcome. If disastrous war should sweep our commerce from the ocean, another generation may renew it; if it exhaust our treasury, future industry may replenish it; if it desolate and lay waste our fields, still, under a new cultivation, they will grow green again, and ripen to future harvests. It were but a trifle, if the walls of yonder capitol were to crumble, if its lofty pillars should fall, and its gorgeous decorations be all coverd by the dust of the valley. All these might be rebuilt. But who shall reconstruct the fabric of demolished government? Who shall rear again the well-proportioned columns of constitutional liberty? Who shall frame together the skillful architecture which unites national sovereignty with the States rights, individual security, and public prosperity? No, if these columns fall, they will be raised not again. Like the Coliseum and the Parthenon, they will be destined to a mournful, a melancholy immortality. Bitterer tears, however, will flow over them, than were ever shed over the monuments of Roman or Grecian art; for they will be the remnants of a more glorious edifice than Greece or Rome ever saw-the edifice of constitutional American Liberty.”

Thank you. Daniel Webster, and he wrote this in the centennial of George Washington's birth.

[Cato]

P.S.

As the fallen republic lurches into a dumbed-down, mongrelized corporate police state, I can only hope that future generations of thoughtful Europeans will do more than roll their eyes and make untrue generalizations about the American experiment.

[Foxy]

Colonists, and no more immigrants than the Italians who have Greek forefathers from the days of Magna Graecia.

As to exhaustion, like this?



“Other misfortunes may be borne, or their effects overcome. If disastrous war should sweep our commerce from the ocean, another generation may renew it; if it exhaust our treasury, future industry may replenish it; if it desolate and lay waste our fields, still, under a new cultivation, they will grow green again, and ripen to future harvests. It were but a trifle, if the walls of yonder capitol were to crumble, if its lofty pillars should fall, and its gorgeous decorations be all coverd by the dust of the valley. All these might be rebuilt. But who shall reconstruct the fabric of demolished government? Who shall rear again the well-proportioned columns of constitutional liberty? Who shall frame together the skillful architecture which unites national sovereignty with the States rights, individual security, and public prosperity? No, if these columns fall, they will be raised not again. Like the Coliseum and the Parthenon, they will be destined to a mournful, a melancholy immortality. Bitterer tears, however, will flow over them, than were ever shed over the monuments of Roman or Grecian art; for they will be the remnants of a more glorious edifice than Greece or Rome ever saw-the edifice of constitutional American Liberty.”

Thank you. Daniel Webster, and he wrote this in the centennial of George Washington's birth.

Yeah, it's a pity that Italy has other 2000 years of history after the fall of Rome, during which we edificated other monuments, like Saint Peter's, Venice, Florence, etc.etc. -_-
Besides Americans are not the first to want to emulate Romans: Russians and Germans tried before with an epic failure (Kaiser, Kzar mean "Caesar")...

[Cato]

Yeah, it's a pity that Italy has other 2000 years of history after the fall of Rome, during which we edificated other monuments, like Saint Peter's, Venice, Florence, etc.etc. -_-
Besides Americans are not the first to want to emulate Romans: Russians and Germans tried before with an epic failure (Kaiser, Kzar mean "Caesar")...

My early American forefathers didn't emulate the Romans in terms of Caesarism, they emulated men like Cato. Now it's blatant Caesarism, in a suit and tie rather than a toga, and the entire country is turning into, well- God alone knows, probably something out of a dystopian novel.

[Foxy]

My early American forefathers didn't emulate the Romans in terms of Caesarism, they emulated men like Cato. Now it's blatant Caesarism, in a suit and tie rather than a toga, and the entire country is turning into, well- God alone knows, probably something out of a dystopian novel.

Moment, if we speak of early Americans then I agree they were great. But modern Americans are...... an other story. But ok, it is the whites in general who have sissified themselves.
Anyway American sciovinism remebers me Italian sciovinism. Look at us becouse we are your future, with mafia and all the packet XD

[Cato]

Moment, if we speak of early Americans then I agree they were great. But modern Americans are...... an other story. But ok, it is the whites in general who have sissified themselves.
Anyway American sciovinism remebers me Italian sciovinism. Look at us becouse we are your future, with mafia and all the packet XD

Modern Americans can't be lumped into a convienient catch-all descriptor. We run the gamut from lazy slobs on welfare to hardworking, politically apathetic people who pine for the good old days (like me ).

The republic's best days are behind it as far as I'm concerned; the people, like the tea party bunch, who think that they can change anything for the better are dead wrong. I've seen the handwriting on the fall, gradual decline before the final collapse of the American republic into some kind of Orwellian abomination.

[The Lawspeaker]

HELL NO

[Foxy]

Pallamedes

the first Roman emperor with a no-Roman origin was African (from Libya) and his government was a disaster

[Jack B]

No thanks