Bosniak flag is French in reality?

[Shelby]

Religion is spirituality, it would be quite stupid to read everything literally.

Islam stopped being a forward thinking religion only once interpretation was forbidden and the 6th century mentality was restored, aka Wahabism. If Muslims keep that mentality, Islam will go in the same direction as Christianity (decay) rather than the same path as Judaism (being eternal).

U want islam to be a forward thinking teligion, that will have u end up like the christians if u mean that we have to "get with the time"
Judaism being eternal is bs since theyre secular as can be

Both xtianity and judaism arent things u should strive for, islam is perfect, and we dont have to take an example from other religions

[Shelby]

There are Persians, Arabs, Romans, Germans, Mongols

We are Romans.

Read sura "Rum".

We have abandoned religion of Constantine "the Great" and before that Illyrian/Hellenic paganism as well, which is why we are prosecuted and degraded on purpose.

I don't want to imitate foreign nations and civilizations, especially not Arabs.

Islam is a religion for all worlds (ours included), it's not aggressive religion as Arabs and Crusaders want to present/facilitate.

It is disgusting for me to see anything Arab-related or ME related in Bosnia, they are not respecting our civilization and way of life.

If you speak of not respecting your way of life, what is it that they do exactly which makes u disgusted with?

Islam is quran and sunnah it goes 1400 years back, im not too interested in what scholars of today have to say, most of it is innovation, so tell me what these arabs that disgust you do that is against islam?

[Bosniensis]

If you speak of not respecting your way of life, what is it that they do exactly which makes u disgusted with?

Islam is quran and sunnah it goes 1400 years back, im not too interested in what scholars of today have to say, most of it is innovation, so tell me what these arabs that disgust you do that is against islam?

Modern Arabs are predominantly people from Nejd - Bedouins who have enslaved people of Hijaz (Mecca and Medina).

Modern Arab ruling class are buying a properties from us yet they have forbid us to buy properties in Arabia. (Typical subhuman behavior)

Modern Arabs are walking with their clothing (Burqa) and pursue their traditions and ways (non-religion related) without respect to the native locals. (They have Arabised universal religion of Islam)

Modern Arabs have sold themselves to Americans and their help, they are allied with Jews and Americans (Self-humiliation).

Modern Arabs and Persians have divided themselves in religious sects (Sunni, Shia) (Ignorance)

Modern Arabs have proclaimed that they represent Islamic Belief (Faith) even if that's something forbidden (they don't have any privilege in Islam)

Modern Arabs have fought muslims many times, they have even conquered Mecca and Medina from Ottomans WITH FORCE, with a foreign help (British).

Those are the things that I don't like about those Saudi Beduins.

The only Arabs I do respect is messanger of God (Muhammed s.a.vs.) and couple of his friends.
I believe that Constantine the Great one of our Ancient rulers made mistake and practically extended Hellenic Paganism into what is today called Orthodox Christianity.
Islam (in my opinion) is the only true belief in God.

[Gold-Shekel]

U want islam to be a forward thinking teligion, that will have u end up like the christians if u mean that we have to "get with the time"
Judaism being eternal is bs since theyre secular as can be

Both xtianity and judaism arent things u should strive for, islam is perfect, and we dont have to take an example from other religions

Islam was perfect until Arabs decided they wanted to live in the 6th century. I guess you call DAESH "a good thing" and "progressive Islam" from the way you're talking.

You can't take word for word something that was written 1400 years ago, there were some important changes between then and now. You can't apply something that was written in the desert to somewhere with winters and mountains.

[Robocop]

Islam was perfect until Arabs decided they wanted to live in the 6th century. I guess you call DAESH "a good thing" and "progressive Islam" from the way you're talking.

You can't take word for word something that was written 1400 years ago, there were some important changes between then and now. You can't apply something that was written in the desert to somewhere with winters and mountains.

Nothin was perfect considering religions or ideologies, including Islam till 12th century.

Why would Islam "be perfect" till 12th century? Because they stole Roman-Greek knowledge from Byzantine provinces of North Africa and Middle East and based their entire science on Greek math, logic etc...?

Well, if that's the case then Classical (and Hellenistic period) Ancient Greece was a paradise, a perfect society without any problems what so ever.

P.S. That myth about "perfect" Islam till 12th century is more Western Political correctness Leftist propaganda than transparent History.

Contrary to populistic leftist believes and propaganda; Byzantine Empire was nothin less advanced than Muslim world till 12th century, on the contrary; Byzantine Empire monetary system was Alpha and Omega of entire Mediterranean world (entire Western world) for 1000 years; from 476 - 1453.

And Greek (and Latin) language was in that period what English language is today, a language of understanding between various ethnics and cultures (means between Europeans and Arabs) on Western side of planet, Arabic language never had such role.

[The Destroyer]

Nothin was perfect considering religions or ideologies, including Islam till 12th century.

Why would Islam "be perfect" till 12th century? Because they stole Roman-Greek knowledge from Byzantine provinces of North Africa and Middle East and based their entire science on Greek math, logic etc...?

Well, if that's the case then Classical (and Hellenistic period) Ancient Greece was a paradise, a perfect society without any problems what so ever.

P.S. That myth about "perfect" Islam till 12th century is more Western Political correctness Leftist propaganda than transparent History.

Contrary to populistic leftist believes and propaganda; Byzantine Empire was nothin less advanced than Muslim world till 12th century, on the contrary; Byzantine Empire monetary system was Alpha and Omega of entire Mediterranean world (entire Western world) for 1000 years; from 476 - 1453.

And Greek (and Latin) language was in that period what English language is today, a language of understanding between various ethnics and cultures (means between Europeans and Arabs) on Western side of planet, Arabic language never had such role.

Sorry, it seems you have a lack of knowledge. Greek never became the universal language for Europe, while Arabic did become the universal language for the Muslim World. Arabic was spoken from Muslim Spain to India.

Second, Byzantine Empire was nothing like the ancient Greeks (their forum members get seizures when you tell them this). Byzantine Greeks were only a shadow of Ancient Greeks, in their last 300 years they were very decadent.

Thirdly, the Muslim world was more scientifically advanced than Europe at the time, that is a fact. Now, as for the reasons why this was like that, it is not far from the truth that their works were based on Greek literature. But then again, renaissance European culture and science was also based on Greek literature, so that's not really a big deal. Also, they evolved on the Greek knowledge, founded the first Middle Ages university in Baghdad, and advanced things such as medicine, astronomy and optics beyond what Greeks ever could know.

So no, it has nothing to do with "leftist propaganda". Muslims were a force to be reckoned with. I guess it's hard to accept that for someone with white superiority complex and Eurocentric way of thought.

[Böri]

Modern Arabs are walking with their clothing (Burqa) and pursue their traditions and ways (non-religion related) without respect to the native locals. (They have Arabised universal religion of Islam)

Yeah that's correct and your hero Erdogan is reviving his mongrel concept of 'Ottomanism, on this Arabised concept of Islam. Many youth turn Atheist as result nowadays and Islam is dying religion. Not stopping there, your buddy wants to racially Arabise the country too with immigrants.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah that's correct and your hero Erdogan is reviving his mongrel concept of 'Ottomanism, on this Arabised concept of Islam. Many youth turn Atheist as result nowadays and Islam is dying religion. Not stopping there, your buddy wants to racially Arabise the country too with immigrants.

You are obviously not objective when it comes to Erdogan. Neo-Ottomanism won't involve any racial mixing, it's a cultural, economical and political idea.

[Böri]

You are obviously not objective when it comes to Erdogan. Neo-Ottomanism won't involve any racial mixing, it's a cultural, economical and political idea.

In your pink beautiful dream it's like that. Erdogan is Arabised himself through ethnic Arab wife now taking on Turks. He wages a war on concept of Turkish understanding of Islam or 'Türk-İslam sentezi, as Turks called it in the past and formulation of Ottomanism with Arab and MENA strong cultural elements. The youth in the country getting away from religion as a result.

[RenaRyuguu]

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