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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Palestinians are indeed very clannish. There are the Barghouti clan that run Ramallah to this day for eg, the Jarrar who were the tax collecters in Jenin for the Ottomans, etc etc.
    Palestinians and Levantines are actually more tribal than say Egyptians, who dont have such tribal concepts and are more urbane vs peasant in their dynamic.

    Sharia is embedded in any civil law construct. If you mean things like a law decriminalizing polygamy, Somalis will fight it ofcourse, since that will be something imposed from outside, and we do not accept impositions.
    They are really more prominent families than clans. Palestine is more akin to how Sicily was in the past. There are powerful familes, and people gravitate towards them, but they are more like mafia familes than true clans. There isnt clan identity in Palestine.

    I was mistaken about the government of Somalia, I thought it was fully secular, my mistake. From wikipedia: "Article 2 of Somali 2012 Constitution states no law can be enacted that is not compliant with the general principles and objectives of Sharia." - as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Al Shabab is just one small challenge...and yes Somalia needs a strong army, but it wont be allowed. This foreign supported government is only allowed to operate if it is weak. Neither Kenya or Ethiopia will be happy with a strong Somali army since about 40% of Somali 'land' is in their territory.
    you're a mistery to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    They are really more prominent families than clans. Palestine is more akin to how Sicily was in the past. There are powerful familes, and people gravitate towards them, but they are more like mafia familes than true clans. There isnt clan identity in Palestine.

    I was mistaken about the government of Somalia, I thought it was fully secular, my mistake. From wikipedia: "Article 2 of Somali 2012 Constitution states no law can be enacted that is not compliant with the general principles and objectives of Sharia." - as it should be.
    A family consisting of 5,000 people is a clan/tribe...I think you just dont like the tribal association, but it is what it is.

    There are whole towns and villages in Palestine and all of MENA which consists of one 'family'....that is a tribal unit. Some become more prominent than others, and the mafioso of Sicily had its origin from MENA society in anycase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    you're a mistery to me.
    Did you know the former leader/head of al Shabab was a Somalilander? (we use al shabab proxies to punish the mogadishu folks)...but any al Shabab found in Somaliland will get a bullet in his head

    other Somalis call us 'the jews' of Somalia hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    A family consisting of 5,000 people is a clan/tribe...I think you just dont like the tribal association, but it is what it is.

    There are whole towns and villages in Palestine and all of MENA which consists of one 'family'....that is a tribal unit. Some become more prominent than others, and the mafioso of Sicily had its origin from MENA society in anycase.
    It's in the same vein, but just not remotely as prominent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Did you know the former leader/head of al Shabab was a Somalilander? (we use al shabab proxies to punish the mogadishu folks)...but any al Shabab found in Somaliland will get a bullet in his head

    other Somalis call us 'the jews' of Somalia hehe.
    Are you of Somalilander descent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    Are you of Somalilander descent?
    yes...I'm an Isaaq from the Habr Awal subclan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    yes...I'm an Isaaq from the Habr Awal subclan

    Interesting. Are you Canadian born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    Interesting. Are you Canadian born?
    No I was fortunately born in Hargeisa (which makes me eligible for Somaliland presidency). I came to Canada at the age of 5...spent 85% of my life here. My younger siblings are Canadian born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    No I was fortunately born in Hargeisa (which makes me eligible for Somaliland presidency). I came to Canada at the age of 5...spent 85% of my life here. My younger siblings are Canadian born.
    Fortunately? Do you want to return to Somaliland? And do you intend to run for presdident?

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