The world without Arab and Turkish incursions

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Busted. Bosniensis disliked your post because Turkey is too small. Bosniaks are the Balkan's Filipinos. Grateful to Turkey for bringing them their religion, whereas the Pinoy is grateful to Spain for that.

I don't think that Bosniensis likes so much Turkey.

[onetwopunch]

Better question would be how would the world look like without European incursions, invasions and slavery.

[Pahli]

Samanid Persians (south Central Asia after Umayyads) weren't Sufis. They had Arab ideology. Their missionaries converted Turks.
There is no Turco-Persian tradition in religion, that's just in Seljuk, Gazhnavid, Turkmen Khwarezmian state system.
Religion can't change, that's stable system.

Persians are religiously much into it.
Turks were always more liberal due to lifestyle and genetics.

Dude you are seriously the biggest retard on this forum

[Mingle]

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Remeber Arabization/Turkification of Middle east Beside Islamazition had shaped the Today's Middle East.

* Assyria - belongs to the Assyrians. This land is captivated by Arabs who claim to be "Northen Iraqi", and "Syrian" (although the word "Syria" is driven from "Assyria"). Modern day Northen Iraq, Syria South Eastern Turkey And North Western Iran.

*Babylonia (Iraq) - belongs to the Babylonians (descendants of the Ancient Babylonians). Today's Southern Iraq

* Land of Israel - belongs to the Jews. This land is captivated by Arabs who claim to be "Palestinian" and "Jordanian". Although many Palestinians have Jewish origins. They ave been Arabized. Many Modern day state of Israel and the Hashemite kingdom of Jordan.

*Armenia - Western Armenia is occupied by the so called Turkey.

*Greece- Eastern Greece is occupied by the so called Turkey.

*Persia - (descendants of the Ancient Persians). Today's Iran for the most part.

* Kurdistan - Never existed in history . Their Origin is unknown and unclear but if the Kurds want a land , they should establish it on the Northern Iranian Territory where they belong, Lingistucally, Genetically ,Culturally. No Kurdistan on Assyria Or Armenia. We are not against Kurds but the kurds must know Assyria is Assyria and Armenia is Armenia. No Dream Land so called Kurdisan on Assyria Or Armenia.

* Phoenicia - belongs to the Lebanese people (descendants of the Phoenicians). This land is captivated by Arabs who claim to be "Lebanese". Modern day Lebanon and central-west Syria.

* Egypt (Kemet) - belongs to the Copts (descendants of the Ancient Egyptians). This land is captivated by Arabs who claim to be "Egyptian". Modern day Egypt, most-northern Sudan and most-eastern Libya.

* Arabia - The Land of the Arabs, For that , They are Arabs. Today's Sudia Arabia, AUE, Qutar, Yeman , Oman."

You forgot 'Aram', land of the Arameans. Syria was originally Aramean.

Also, Northeast Turkey (Tao-Klarjeti) would become part of Georgia rather than Armenia in such a scenario.

[Demon Revival]

Assyria wouldn't have existed, but Asuristan (place / country of Assyrians) existed as a region under the Sassanids. If there was no Turkish incursions Iranian dominance over the Middle East and the Steppes would have been much greater.

I think this is a factor everyone is overlooking. If no Arab and Turkish expansions existed Persia would have become bigger than the URRS.

[onetwopunch]

Perhaps it would be like this.

Last time some people tried something like that some people ended up in a ditch. The survivors are still licking their wounds and crying. 🤧

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[StonyArabia]

Not really => History of algebra. Started by Babylonians and it existed in Egypt, Greece and India. As you see it's called Islamic Algebra not Arabic because Persian mathematicians (e.g. Khwarizmi and Khayyam) were the major contributors to Algebra field.

His teachers were Arabs though so there, plus Algeria is an Arabic word

[Westbrook]

Wonder how different southern Europe would be today without centuries of Muslim pillaging and occupation

[StonyArabia]

Wonder how different southern Europe would be today without centuries of Muslim pillaging and occupation

Which one, Iberia, Sicily? They mostly likely would less darker, they became darker because we ruled them

[Westbrook]

Which one, Iberia, Sicily? They mostly likely would less darker, they became darker because we ruled them

All of it. Iberia, Italy, and everything occupied by the Ottomans between the Adriatic and Black Sea.