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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    ...It's hard to believe that they're descendants of the Vikings that used to strike the fears of most peoples of Europe during the early middle ages, and regarded as one of the most Alpha males in history. What happened?
    At all, bro. Vikings were famous to terrorize monks and priests. When they faced against armies usually they were defeated as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Another thing Vikings used to do was capture European slaves and sell them to muslims. I wonder on what scale and what kind of slaves, but I have a hard time glorifying them reading that history.
    40% of viking society were slaves themselves,
    slavic and celtic slaves it was a small minority,
    but surrprisingly, noone never is saying this
    Last edited by Rethel; 05-15-2017 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    white female young girls to mena muslims
    Could be. Well, they also took Celtic girls for their own. A popular legend is that the reason Scottish women are ugly is because the Vikings stole all the pretty ones in the past. Are Scottish women ugly? I dunno. I didn't invent the legend, so don't shoot me Scottish women.

    Iceland has a high percentage of Celtic origin because they took Celtic thralls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    They would've made the lives of current Swedes a living hell were you to time warp them to today's age.

    It would be like gang alliances that exist today.
    You know, Tacitus himself actually had praised the ancient Germanic peoples in having a very deep sense of morality, ethics, tribalism and family, and he cursed his fellow Romans in being the exact opposite of those things. Now, It's seems to be quite the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    At all, bro. Vikings were famous to terrorize monks and priests. When they faced against armies usually they were defeated as fuck.
    Yeah, especially considering that they got their asses kicked by the Normans in Britain which was considered to be the last Viking raid until the Vikings converted to Christianity and began crusading their pagan neighbors of Finland and the Baltic peoples. In fact, the Germans had defeated the old Baltic tribe known as the Old Prussians, and they basically got converted and assimilated to the German people which the Germans had adopted their name for their kingdom of Prussia.

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    I like Sweden, although I do remember it being quite stuffy and prissy. Nevertheless, hate-speech laws are an abomination, and it looks like Sweden applies them even more vigorously than does Britain. You cannot use illiberal and intolerant means to supposedly promote liberty and tolerance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Yeah, especially considering that they got their asses kicked by the Normans in Britain which was considered to be the last Viking raid until the Vikings converted to Christianity and began crusading their pagan neighbors of Finland and the Baltic peoples. In fact, the Germans had defeated the old Baltic tribe known as the Old Prussians, and they basically got converted and assimilated to the German people which the Germans had adopted their name for their kingdom of Prussia.
    Just for curiosity, if you want to read

    There were four great waves of Viking raids on the Iberian peninsula.

    -In the first one, in 844 year, Vikings swept the area of Gijon (Asturias), to go to Galicia and razing the area of La Coruña. When King Ramiro I of Asturias gathered his army defeated the Vikings, who continued towards Lisbon.
    The Vikings swept Lisbon (we are talking of Muslim territories already) for thirteen days, and later Cádiz, climbed by the Guadalquivir river, looting Coria del Río and arriving to Seville, which also were looted. It was then that the Caliph Abderraman gathered an army and defeated them and expelled them.

    -Second wave, in 858-861 years: in the year 858, they returned to Galicia, attacking Iria Flavia. Its inhabitants took refuge in Santiago de Compostela (due to these attacks the Episcopal headquarters moved from Iria Flavia to Santiago de Compostela, more inside and protected), but they were pursued by the Vikings, who besieged the city. Then it arrived an army sent by Ordoño I (son of Ramiro I) and defeated them hardly ( from hundred Viking ships only survived 62) and expelled them.
    They followed again towards the South, towards lands in Muslim hands. They lost two ships more in lands of current Portugal, for later razing Algeciras (and even the North African coastline) and Murcia. They spent the winter on the French coast, and on their return, climbled the Ebro river reaching Navarra, where kidnapped its king García Iñíguez, whereby he obtained a ransom of 90.000 dinars.

    -Thirld wave, 966-971 years: At this stage, both the Muslim and Christian lands were more prepared for the expected Viking attacks.
    Some of them are defeated in Lisbon, and others again attack SAntiago de Compostela in Galicia, where are rejected barely by Bishop Sisenando.
    In the 968 year they return to attack this time Galicia, now Iria Flavia, where Bishop Sisenando dies in the battle.
    The Vikings pillaged widely Galicia, until in the year 971 Bishop Rudesindo gathers an army and defeat them hardly, getting to kill Gundraed, the Viking leader, and expelled them.
    Even being very decimated, the Vikings who managed to escape attempted to plunder the Muslim Western coast, but also were defeated there

    -Fourth wave, 1008-1038 years: This time the Vikings attack different parts of Galicia, due to the resistance found in that area.
    In 1008 they attack Braga, in 1015 Tuy, with Olaf Haraldsson as leader. The Leonese king Alfonso V expelled them.
    in 1028 year they attack again Galicia, and in 1032 year they act as mercenaries of a Galician noble in a rebellion against King Bermudo III of León, but they are defeated and expelled.
    From then on, only actions of piracy without greater importance, or again as mercenaries.

    As you can check, the Vikings, when they clashed with armies, both Christian and Muslim, were repeatedly defeated.
    Not so good warriors.

    http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/filoy...ikingos_pi.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I like Sweden, although I do remember it being quite stuffy and prissy. Nevertheless, hate-speech laws are an abomination, and it looks like Sweden applies them even more vigorously than does Britain. You cannot use illiberal and intolerant means to supposedly promote liberty and tolerance.
    In a real and fair society, all races must be treated equally regardless of race, gender, creed and so on. Egalitarianism treats the majority of the people lower than the minority groups in contrast to nationalistic countries that treats the majority above the minority groups(fascism). A country shouldn't adhere to either side, and should treat all peoples fairly and justly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Just for curiosity, if you want to read

    There were four great waves of Viking raids on the Iberian peninsula.

    -In the first one, in 844 year, Vikings swept the area of Gijon (Asturias), to go to Galicia and razing the area of La Coruña. When King Ramiro I of Asturias gathered his army defeated the Vikings, who continued towards Lisbon.
    The Vikings swept Lisbon (we are talking of Muslim territories already) for thirteen days, and later Cádiz, climbed by the Guadalquivir river, looting Coria del Río and arriving to Seville, which also were looted. It was then that the Caliph Abderraman gathered an army and defeated them and expelled them.

    -Second wave, in 858-861 years: in the year 858, they returned to Galicia, attacking Iria Flavia. Its inhabitants took refuge in Santiago de Compostela (due to these attacks the Episcopal headquarters moved from Iria Flavia to Santiago de Compostela, more inside and protected), but they were pursued by the Vikings, who besieged the city. Then it arrived an army sent by Ordoño I (son of Ramiro I) and defeated them hardly ( from hundred Viking ships only survived 62) and expelled them.
    They followed again towards the South, towards lands in Muslim hands. They lost two ships more in lands of current Portugal, for later razing Algeciras (and even the North African coastline) and Murcia. They spent the winter on the French coast, and on their return, climbled the Ebro river reaching Navarra, where kidnapped its king García Iñíguez, whereby he obtained a ransom of 90.000 dinars.

    -Thirld wave, 966-971 years: At this stage, both the Muslim and Christian lands were more prepared for the expected Viking attacks.
    Some of them are defeated in Lisbon, and others again attack SAntiago de Compostela in Galicia, where are rejected barely by Bishop Sisenando.
    In the 968 year they return to attack this time Galicia, now Iria Flavia, where Bishop Sisenando dies in the battle.
    The Vikings pillaged widely Galicia, until in the year 971 Bishop Rudesindo gathers an army and defeat them hardly, getting to kill Gundraed, the Viking leader, and expelled them.
    Even being very decimated, the Vikings who managed to escape attempted to plunder the Muslim Western coast, but also were defeated there

    -Fourth wave, 1008-1038 years: This time the Vikings attack different parts of Galicia, due to the resistance found in that area.
    In 1008 they attack Braga, in 1015 Tuy, with Olaf Haraldsson as leader. The Leonese king Alfonso V expelled them.
    in 1028 year they attack again Galicia, and in 1032 year they act as mercenaries of a Galician noble in a rebellion against King Bermudo III of León, but they are defeated and expelled.
    From then on, only actions of piracy without greater importance, or again as mercenaries.

    As you can check, the Vikings, when they clashed with armies, both Christian and Muslim, were repeatedly defeated.
    Not so good warriors.

    http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/filoy...ikingos_pi.pdf
    Lol, Nordicists are getting butthurt about this.

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    Regarding the OP article talking about "Soviet Sweden" is actually quite funny and ahistorical, given how little immigration the USSR had, apart from a select few students from "Socialist brother" countries in the developing world.

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