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    Default Those who learned Spanish, and native speakers, how much of European Portuguese can you understand?

    What is your general impression of the language and what differences can you notice?

    For example, as a Portuguese speaker I notice simple replacements like initial F as H, LH as J, missing or added letters (sea/seja, deseo/desejo, solo/só, eres/és), etc. Can you notice those things too?



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    Há algo de bom
    Em tudo o que fazes
    Compra lá, não dou
    Eu e tu não há

    Achas que sabes
    Sem saberes quem sou
    Tenho-te na mão
    Vi-te a chorar

    Há um predador
    No meio de nós
    Seja lá quem for

    Passo-lhe a mão pelo pêlo
    Nem ele sabe o quanto é para mim
    Tu sabes que por confiança
    Correm por gosto e não cansam
    Eu e tu não há

    Lá em Singapura eu não era ninguém
    A comparar com o malfeitor

    Lá em Singapura todos querem ser alguém
    Mas não corre esperança



    Ergo-me da cama que me aquece, que me prende,
    Que me trama se me chama p'ra dormir.
    Saio sem demora, já é hora de no escuro
    Lá de fora o sol resolver surgir.

    E acordo sonolento, rabugento,
    Ruminando um lamento por ter de ir trabalhar.
    Mas penso positivo e concluo que estar vivo
    É motivo mais que bom p'ra me animar.

    E então saio de rompante, torno-me mais confiante
    Vendo o dia amanhecer.
    Escolho o meu melhor sorriso, e aceito o improviso,
    Que o meu dia vai trazer.

    Aproveito ao segundo, tudo aquilo que este mundo,
    Faz p'ra me surpreender.
    Levo o dia numa boa, que "p'rá frente é que é Lisboa!
    Sinto-me de bem com a vida, seja o que tiver de ser!


    I've heard other people saying that European Portuguese sounds like a Slavic language to them, including other Romance speakers. Portuguese definitely sounds very distinct from other Romance languages, that's for sure. I believe Spanish speakers can understand 70%-80% of written Portuguese but when spoken 20% to 30% due to our accent.
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    It is also very well known that Portuguese speakers understand Spanish better than Spanish speakers understand Portuguese. Portuguese has this nasal vowels which don't exist in Spanish and therefore it is not pronounced as it is read like in Spanish, you really need to understand pronunciation rules before you can speak it. In Spanish, they pronounce the vowels in only five ways, while in Portuguese I believe we do the vowels in about 14 different ways. "Ão", "õe", "lhe", "nhe", "ch" sounds really unfamiliar to Spanish speakers.
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    I can read potuguese with about 99% fluency

    Understanding spoken portuguese is a different story; i maybe get anywhere from 60% to 75% of the meaning, depending on the accent and how clear the speaker is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekihabaithor View Post
    I can read potuguese with about 99% fluency

    Understanding spoken portuguese is a different story; i maybe get anywhere from 60% to 75% of the meaning, depending on the accent and how clear the speaker is
    Are you a native Spanish speaker? Do you find it easier to understand the Portuguese accent or the Brazilian one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Are you a native Spanish speaker? Do you find it easier to understand the Portuguese accent or the Brazilian one?
    Brazilian for sure. Europeans speak in a "soft" way, that while very pretty, makes all the sounds sort of blend together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekihabaithor View Post
    Brazilian for sure. Europeans speak in a "soft" way, that while very pretty, makes all the sounds sort of blend together.
    How much you would say that you can understand in this European Portuguese videos?

    Ballad:



    Rock:



    Rap:

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    I know it's not the thread's question but I could understand Spanish with 90% of fluency even when I hadn't studied the language yet.

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