What is you definition of WOG and whom is a good example?

[axel.aleman]

Mediterranean Phenotype
Olive Skin or not pale white skin
Dark hair

Examples: Erronkari and Celestia

[Insuperable]

Only by Anglo-Australians, and not necessarily. Zelic is woggy as fuck though, in speech as well as looks.

I'd say that she doesn't look woggy as fuck, woggy perhaps. There are southern Europeans which I would consider woggy as fuck which you would consider totally non-white looking.

[lockdownboredom]

Not really, that's just Australia. Anyway, wog means dark white. Me Bean is a wog, this woman obviously isn't.

well it's terminology that has been popularized by australians and it is the aussie definition that was hijacked by this site. and it doesn't refer to someones pigmentation. if the term was never used in australia, this website would have never adopted it. the meaning in the uk is different and not applicable to any euro. the term doesn't exist in american vocabulary.

[Creoda]

I'd say that she doesn't look woggy as fuck, woggy perhaps. There are southern Europeans which I would consider woggy as fuck which you would consider totally non-white looking.

OK, she doesn't look the most woggy (Mediterranean), but in Australia wogginess is the whole package, including accent and culture, not just looks as is thought on this site. So Craig Foster, another panelist on that clip, looks as woggy as her despite being Anglo-Celtic, but isn't considered a wog because that's not his background or accent.

99% of discussion of wogginess on this site is about looks, but that aspect is rarely ever discussed in Australia, it's almost always about culture and accent. It's just taken for granted that wogs look generally Meddish, though not always, just as Aussies/'skips' look generally Celto-Germanic, but not always.

[Flashball]

I don't use the term because where I live the locals (French of Nordic stock) have phenotypic variations and I wouldn't see much point in using a term that could denote ignorance of the history of the area, city, town and variations unique to these locations.

"Woggy" assumes that there would be a majority phenotype and that to deviate from this phenotype would therefore be to deviate from a "not dark" phenotype, but it is quite variable: what the Anglo-Saxons consider " strange" among French people, even from the North of France, it is not strange for natives according the village where they come from.

Exemple:
It is also fascinating to see that the old photos of natives of certain villages in the North of France that I shared on Apricity led some to say that they did not have a "typical Northern French face", while they have never opened a book on the history of the locals Northern French population (some town), they always look for "foreign origins" or explanations in connection with prehistoric contributions (EEF in particular,), which may sometimes be not totally related: the most "steppe" populations do not necessarily have the same pigmentation as the different Indo-Europeans (who themselves could have differences in features and pigmentations depending on the selections).

I don't know the phenotypic variations of English people, and I couldn't even tell if Rowant Atkinson has a "minority" phenotype, because some populations in certain villages in England (or elsewhere) might have certain specific traits. Some people from some villages are not interchangeable and I know that is hard to understand for people who think that it is possible to average out a lot of village and family specific phenotypic variation due to different selections (to due to endogamy in particular).

In my paternal village, Gouy-Saint-André, I was able to find individuals with specific traits that deviate from the average, so we can obviously create averages, majority phenotypes (not a single ) and minority phenotypes (facial features, pigmentation, or both), but nationally this may not be consistent at times.
I disregard people who confuse pigmentation with facial features, because that's obviously nonsense.

Also, facial features, pigmentation, can change over time, so that a population of a small town could have slightly different features and/or pigmentation (especially among males) according the century. This does not mean that there was a "population replacement" in this case (sometimes yes, sometimes there is mixing with people who come from other villages and who have other selections for such traits and pigmentations, but that's not the case I'm talking about).


As I said, the standards of what is exotic or not are sometimes not the same in different small town, big city and countries on a large scale.

For a Finn, my father looks like a North African, but for a Frenchman native to the North of France and who comes from the same ancestral villages as my father: his phenotype is in no way exotic or minority: he is within the range of variations that can be found in these villages and which probably also existed among the Gallic tribes of these villages, without saying that there was obviously no phenotypic evolution (without change of population) over time.

But a Russian or Finn might ("might", so not "all the time", it's not a general rule) seem exotic in a village in the North of France.

However, the Polish immigration in the North of France did not bring such divergent phenotypes, but I imagine that the Polish individuals who arrived in the North of France represented their village/area and not necessarily all the phenotypes of all the villages in Poland.

[Russki]

But a Russian or Finn might ("might", so not "all the time", it's not a general rule) seem exotic in a village in the North of France.

Baltic Finns don't pass in Northern France to an extent that Russians do.

We are more EEF and less Siberia shifted.

[Septentrion]

I am curious to know as this is a foreign word that no American has ever heard of or use.

What or whom is a good example.

It is a very racist or derogatory term directed towards Caucasoids of the Mediterranean sub-race ( Spanish, Italians, Greeks, etc…) . As well as non-European Caucasoids such as Turks, Arabs, Iranians , Berbers, etc.., due to their somewhat darker appearance compared to those who belong to the Northern European sub-race of the Caucasoid ( e.g. English, Swedish, Belgian, etc…).

The word equivalent to «WOG» is «Nigger». It is just as bad. So if you are a Lebanese or Syrian or Italian and someone calls you that, you ought to punch him real hard.

[Septentrion]

Baltic Finns don't pass in Northern France to an extent that Russians do.

We are more EEF and less Siberia shifted.

Baltic Finns are too blond-haired for even Northern France.

[Cristiano viejo]

It is a very racist or derogatory term directed towards Caucasoids of the Mediterranean sub-race ( Spanish, Italians, Greeks, etc…) . As well as non-European Caucasoids such as Turks, Arabs, Iranians , Berbers, etc.., due to their somewhat darker appearance compared to those who belong to the Northern European sub-race of the Caucasoid ( e.g. English, Swedish, Belgian, etc…).

The word equivalent to «WOG» is «Nigger». It is just as bad. So if you are a Lebanese or Syrian or Italian and someone calls you that, you ought to punch him real hard.

Stop inventing a false meaning and stop claiming Belgians are North Europeans.

[Septentrion]

Stop inventing a false meaning and stop claiming Belgians are North Europeans.

Be proud of who you are! Southern Euro! It’s Ok! It’s still Europe and it’s not Northern Africa, yet. Belgium belong to both the Nordic sub-race and the greater Northern European race. Our country is located at the western end of the Northern European plain.