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    Quote Originally Posted by lyakh View Post
    E-CTS1273*(?) was found in Jordan (id:YF10527).

    E-S7461 (a subclade of E-CTS1273) was found in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon (that subclade has also two mutation downstream of S7461: A8612/BY5022 and Y19357/FGC44188/BY5023).
    As I said before, if he was E1b1b it would be E-M123 and not V13 which has an origin within Europe
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porn Master View Post
    J2.
    He was Chaldean from Mesopotamia

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyakh View Post
    So why E-CTS1273
    Becasue such people lived there?????
    What it has to do with Abraham? First
    read the story, understand it, and then
    say something about his hg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyakh View Post
    I suppose that CTS1273* lineage may be a remnant of Abraham's descendants who lived in the territory of Jordan in ancient times. E-V13 and its descendant E-CTS1273 are found mostly in the Old Continent, but few lineages of CTS1273 were found in Near East. Why they are present there?
    Back migration from the Balkans could be a reason why it's present in the near east. E-V13 originates in the Balkans as suggested by diversity and aDNA
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Why E-V13 (more precisely CTS1273) expanded suddenly about 4000 years before present? In which culture might happen the expansion of E-V13?

    What about lost ten tribes of Israel?

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    Jesus Christ wth is this thread!!!

    He didn't exist, but even if he did, how would you possibly know for sure?! It's all guesses - and the Middle East is too mixed in Y DNA for any guess to be accurate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyakh View Post
    Why E-V13 (more precisely CTS1273) expanded suddenly about 4000 years before present?
    Because earlier didn't exist.


    Partialy remained the part of diaspora, some returned to the
    Judea and Galilea - but mainly assimilated into ME people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyakh View Post
    Why E-V13 (more precisely CTS1273) expanded suddenly about 4000 years before present? In which culture might happen the expansion of E-V13?

    What about lost ten tribes of Israel?
    E-V13 originated among the late Neolithic cultures from the Balkans or southern Europe as suggested by it's father clade E-L618 having been found in Neolithic Croatia and V13 being found in Neolithic Spain although it has the highest diversity in the Balkans, it's possibly linked to the Cardium pottery culture. The Israelites were J1, J2, E-M123 etc not V13, they will release aDNA from Bronze Age Israel soon which will give us better insights to their haplogroups
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    He didn't exist, but even if he did, how would you possibly know for sure?! It's all guesses - and the Middle East is too mixed in Y DNA for any guess to be accurate!


    If you would even basic education, you would know, that his
    provenance is described in every needed detail. There is no
    too much space for guessing. Only ignorants do that.

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    Hamlet,
    don;t be butthurted.
    If you pretend to be a Jew, at least learn the story...

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