China bans Islamic baby names in Muslim majority Xinjiang province

[Charles Bronson]

China's government really only cares about religion if it infringes on their sovereignty. They have anti-Islamic laws for the Uighurs, but not for other Muslim groups like the Huis or Salars or Dongxiang, etc. Because the Uighurs are the only ones actively agitating for independence.

I dont know, if its true but my family members say we have one in our family, an ethnicity Uyghur who living for more then 200 years, this would be explain my Y-DNA haplogroup and my gedmatch result. The time change the future for the Uyghurs. Yasasin Turan.

[ariel]

Well, China is the only civilization to have successfully assimilated the Jews. LOL

There is an ancient community in Kaifeng but I think they lost touch with their roots long ago, but are now rediscovering it.

I know one of them who born in israel his family own of one of the best chinese restaurants in israel the restaurant is not kosher lol.amazing food.i love the authentic chinese food.

[frankhammer]

I'm not sure if they are officially banned but they rarely venture out to the Kashgar region. Xinjiang has primarily two different zones, there is Beijiang (Northern Xinjiang) centered around Urumqi where there is a lot of Han influence, the Uighurs and Kazakhs there are also pretty sinicized. And then there is Nanjiang (Southern Xinjiang), centered around Kashgar which is the historic Uighur stronghold, that region is still very strongly Uighur.

Anyways, as for the rules banning names, it's stupid, but I guess they are paranoid about the rising extremism.

Interesting stuff. The media really doesn't define north from south. Instead emphasizing and demonizing the Han migration into the region. The lesson here is no different than on any other day, don't rely on the media for accurate reporting.

[Methmatician]

all the religions banned there

Did Radio Free Asia tell you that?

[Bosniensis]

Now we should ban Jewish names in Europe.

[zhaoyun]

Interesting stuff. The media really doesn't define north from south. Instead emphasizing and demonizing the Han migration into the region. The lesson here is no different than on any other day, don't rely on the media for accurate reporting.

Well, the media simplifies things. While it is true that Han migration to Xinjiang has increased, it's really just to the urban areas of Urumqi and it's surroundings. Xinjiang, first of all, is a huge territory, it is the size of Alaska. Uighurs, at least modern Uighurs, were not originally from Northern Xinjiang. That region was once known as Dzungharia, and the Dzungar Mongols were pretty much genocided by the Emperor Qianlong during the Qing Dynasty because of a deep Manchu-Dzungar enmity. After the Dzungar men were basically genocided (the Kalmyks in Russia are descended from the surviving Dzungars who fled), Qianlong invited Uighur farmers from Southern Xinjiang, or Kashgaria, to come up North to settle and till the land and even gave them Dzungar women to take as wives. That's why when you travel to Xinjiang, the Uighurs in the North look part Mongol, they are much more Mongoloid, like this:



While the Uighurs from the South (basically the same people as Uzbeks) are much more Caucasoid:



Han Chinese have had deep historical ties to Northern Xinjiang, as that region was part of the Han Empire and many great Buddhist cities once flourished there, like Gaochang. But Hans have little historic ties to Southern Xinjiang. However, even in Northern Xinjiang, the Hans are basically just in the cities, the countryside are still by far majority Uighur or Kazakhs.

Same in Tibet, the Han Chinese and Hui Moslems (who are the main commercial classes) are usually only found in Lhasa. The countryside is all ethnic Tibetan.

[Inquizzzitor]

As someone else said, the Han play to win, like it or not. It's actually not a stupid policy; it'll probably work - the Uyghurs are too small a minority to actively resist the Chinese government, and they won't outlast them. And the Chinese do not have the "human rights" hangups we here in the West do. They'll do what they want with their Muslim agitators and won't think twice about doing it.

I also find it highly hypocritical for Human Rights Watch and other Western organizations to suddenly be all up in arms about Chinese policy toward religious minorities when the Christians have been on the receiving end of MUCH worse for decades - with nary a peep out of these organizations. But suddenly not being able to name your child "Jihad" is tantamount to the gravest religious oppression. Puh-leeze. Western media is already in a state of dhimmitude/complete subservience to a radical Islamic agenda. Luckily, the Chinese government and media are not.

[zhaoyun]

As someone else said, the Han play to win, like it or not. It's actually not a stupid policy; it'll probably work - the Uyghurs are too small a minority to actively resist the Chinese government, and they won't outlast them. And the Chinese do not have the "human rights" hangups we here in the West do. They'll do what they want with their Muslim agitators and won't think twice about doing it.

I also find it highly hypocritical for Human Rights Watch and other Western organizations to suddenly be all up in arms about Chinese policy toward religious minorities when the Christians have been on the receiving end of MUCH worse for decades - with nary a peep out of these organizations. But suddenly not being able to name your child "Jihad" is tantamount to the gravest religious oppression. Puh-leeze. Western media is already in a state of dhimmitude/complete subservience to a radical Islamic agenda. Luckily, the Chinese government and media are not.

I don't even really understand the point of this law, because no Uighurs would name their kids Jihad or Mecca anyways, that's just dumb.

It seems like this is a typical boneheaded law created by Northern Chinese rednecks along with local Uighur collaborators who are trying to prove they are doing something about Islamic extremism, without really doing anything. Most of the people in the Northern Chinese countryside are real rednecks, and boneheaded behavior is pretty widespread. It's less so in Southern China because the natives there are much more business and commercial minded.

[Sekarotuinen]

China is anti-religious, apparently they bulldoze churches and mosques regularly, so this isnt surprising.
I suppose it's their country, so thry can do as they please.

[Taiji]

I don't even really understand the point of this law, because no Uighurs would name their kids Jihad or Mecca anyways, that's just dumb.

It seems like this is a typical boneheaded law created by Northern Chinese rednecks along with local Uighur collaborators who are trying to prove they are doing something about Islamic extremism, without really doing anything. Most of the people in the Northern Chinese countryside are real rednecks, and boneheaded behavior is pretty widespread. It's less so in Southern China because the natives there are much more business and commercial minded.

There really is no point in this law because in all likelihood it doesn't exist AKA fake news. Let's play a game of Snopes.

Take note of the words in bold. Then take note of the large, bold words.

A document entitled “Naming Rules for Ethnic Minorities” prohibits names used by Muslim parents around the world including Imam, Hajj, Islam, Quran, Saddam, Medina and Islam, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported.

Point 1: Imam, Islam, Quran aren't Uyghur names. None of the Muslim minorities in China have these names.
Point 2: The name Islam is mentioned twice. Bad editing and mistakes are usually a sign of a lack of credibility and dishonesty.
Point 3: Radio Free Asia. This is one of the most biased "news" source out there. It's a very good example of a fake news channel, full of propaganda, low on facts. Only the voices of dissidents are considered when an unbiased channel has much more extensive coverage.

I do agree there is some discrimination and genuine grievances that Uyghurs have. However, it's absolutely nothing compared to what goes on in Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Do note that not all Uyghurs are pushing or even want independence and in fact many have become well integrated citizens of China. However, there certainly are some who do want independence and you could say they are radicalized. Also some of the Uyghur independence movements ARE terrorists and the true genocidal racists. Ever wondered why ethnic Hui, Mongols and Kazakhs aren't very sympathetic with the Uyghur cause?

This is a report from a witness in the 2009 riots, http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/03/02/...r-in-xinjiang/

He could hear shouts from below, chants of "Kill the Han, smash the Hui [another Islamic minority], drive the Mongols out." I heard similar versions of the chant later from other witnesses. Although sometimes the order of other groups was switched up, or the verb changed ("Cut the Kazakhs!"), the first clause was always the same. He stopped looking out of the window once the gunfire started, sporadic bursts in the night after the People’s Armed Police, China’s paramilitary force, entered the city.

Here's a report of identifying the aftermath, http://trotskyistplatform.com/Urumqi.html. I don't agree that the Uyghurs were anti-communists but the number and identity of victims is accurate. Most of those slain weren't Uyghur rioters but innocent civilians.

This is of course something that's not mentioned by the Deep State media. The narrative is often a racist, oppressive majority out to destroy harmless Uyghur freedom fighters. In reality the Uyghur separatists are anything but. Of course if Han Chinese acted as irrationally as the separatists and applied the same rhetoric, they could've easily treated the Uyghurs as non human and exterminated them all. The fact they're not doing this actually speaks against the Chinese plan of genociding Uyghurs. Uyghurs are still people and deserve to be treated as such. I feel if things do work out for the best, Uyghurs probably will end up like Inner Mongolians, Salar, Hui and live in peace with other ethnics while retaining their culture. Despite the hiccups, Tibetans are much better off these days then they were in the past.