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    Default The most Catholic states in Mexico and the Catholic faith

    El Bajio -West-Central Mexico is probably the most Catholic region in the world with the highest % of Catholics or rivals Poland.















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    96% that's fucking crazy.

    What's with Chiapas, are they evangelicals?

    Me and my friends were talking the other day about how much we dislike Evangelicals

    All of my friends are either Catholic, Jewish or Non-religious.

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    En Chile el 2002 (último censo) era:

    Católicos: 70%
    Evangélicos: 15%
    Ninguna: 8%

    El 2017 es:

    Católicos: 58%
    Evangélicos: 14%
    Ninguna: 24%

    Si se extrapola por región el 2017, de norte a sur:

    Arica y Parinacota -> CAT 58% EVA 12% NO 26%
    Tarapacá -> CAT 60% EVA 11% NO 26%
    Antofagasta -> CAT 60% EVA 11% NO 26%
    Atacama -> CAT 63% EVA 10% NO 20%
    Coquimbo -> CAT 68% EVA 7% NO 17%

    Valparaíso -> CAT 63% EVA 9% NO 23%
    Santiago -> CAT 57% EVA 12% NO 30%
    O'Higgins -> CAT 66% EVA 10% NO 15%
    Maule -> CAT 63% EVA 14% NO 15%

    Bío Bío -> CAT 49% EVA 26% NO 23%
    Araucanía -> CAT 53% EVA 22% NO 17%
    Los Ríos -> CAT 52% EVA 22% NO 23%

    Los Lagos -> CAT 62% EVA 14% NO 17%
    Aysén -> CAT 60% EVA 14% NO 26%
    Magallanes -> 66% EVA 7% NO 20%


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    Sólo hay una región (Bío Bío) donde los católicos ya no son la mayoría..

    Y dos regiones (Bío Bío y Araucanía) donde los evangélicos son más que los sin religión

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    Y donde vivo yo, sólo por curiosidad:

    CAT 55% EVA 10% NO 35%

    Los católicos aún no son minoría jaja

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costas View Post
    96% that's fucking crazy.

    What's with Chiapas, are they evangelicals?

    Me and my friends were talking the other day about how much we dislike Evangelicals

    All of my friends are either Catholic, Jewish or Non-religious.
    Yeah, Evangelicalism has been growing in Guatemala and the Mexican border states around Guatemala.

    Personally, I'm of the opinion that evangelical missionaries (most of whom are Americans) should be banned from Guatemala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costas View Post
    En Chile el 2002 (último censo) era:

    Católicos: 70%
    Evangélicos: 15%
    Ninguna: 8%

    El 2017 es:

    Católicos: 58%
    Evangélicos: 14%
    Ninguna: 24%

    Si se extrapola por región el 2017, de norte a sur:

    Arica y Parinacota -> CAT 58% EVA 12% NO 26%
    Tarapacá -> CAT 60% EVA 11% NO 26%
    Antofagasta -> CAT 60% EVA 11% NO 26%
    Atacama -> CAT 63% EVA 10% NO 20%
    Coquimbo -> CAT 68% EVA 7% NO 17%

    Valparaíso -> CAT 63% EVA 9% NO 23%
    Santiago -> CAT 57% EVA 12% NO 30%
    O'Higgins -> CAT 66% EVA 10% NO 15%
    Maule -> CAT 63% EVA 14% NO 15%

    Bío Bío -> CAT 49% EVA 26% NO 23%
    Araucanía -> CAT 53% EVA 22% NO 17%
    Los Ríos -> CAT 52% EVA 22% NO 23%

    Los Lagos -> CAT 62% EVA 14% NO 17%
    Aysén -> CAT 60% EVA 14% NO 26%
    Magallanes -> 66% EVA 7% NO 20%


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    Sólo hay una región (Bío Bío) donde los católicos ya no son la mayoría..

    Y dos regiones (Bío Bío y Araucanía) donde los evangélicos son más que los sin religión

    ---

    Y donde vivo yo, sólo por curiosidad:

    CAT 55% EVA 10% NO 35%

    Los católicos aún no son minoría jaja
    Wow! Alot of atheist in your country. Evangelicals could make a move in Chile like they have done in Guatemala,Brazil and Puerto Rico. I believe Evangelicals are 45% in Puerto Rico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costas View Post
    96% that's fucking crazy.
    I don't think there is anything wrong. Those Mexicans states were the epicenter of the Catholic rebellion "Cristero war" against the Mexican government when the government shutdown Catholic churches thruout Mexico.
    Also those states have alot of colonial churches,so those states are hardline conservative Catholics.

    What's with Chiapas, are they evangelicals?
    Alot of Amerindians that mixed their Native religions with the Catholic faith so the Protestant movement could take advantage of their weak Catholic faith.

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    Regions where Amerindian heritage is far more common appears to have had a significant decline in the past 40 years or a better job was done collecting the information lately.

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    The Virgin of Guadalupe is Mexican nationalism.







    Our Lady of Guadalupe and Mexican Independence

    At daybreak on Sept. 16, 1810, Father Miguel Hidalgo, a Roman Catholic priest at the parish of Our Lady of Sorrows in Dolores Hidalgo, Guanajuato, led the first of several uprisings that would ultimately lead to Mexico’s independence from Spain in 1821.

    El dieciséis de septiembre is a momentous day in the annals of Mexican history. It is also of no small consequence for states like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California which, until the mid-nineteenth century, formed part of Mexico and, before that, part of Spain.

    Father Hidalgo’s call to arms had been planned for the feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec. 8) in 1810. But once thwarted by informants, it was moved up to the day after the feast of Our Lady of Sorrows (Sept. 15). It is evident from the dates that the good priest was invoking the protection and intercession of Mary the Mother of God.

    Father Hidalgo extended the Marian theme of the uprising to the first flag of the independence movement — a banner displaying the dark-skinned likeness of Mary, Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose image stands today as an emblem of the Mexican people and mexicanidad (“Mexican-ness”) in general.

    Prior to the independence movement, the fervor of devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe had stemmed from her appearance to a humble Indian at Tepeyac (just outside of Mexico City) between Dec. 9 and 12, 1531. Although the most familiar account of her apparition was not fully written out until the mid-seventeenth century, it is certain that a small shrine in her honor existed at Tepeyac by the mid-1500s.

    Today, after St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome, the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe is the second most-visited Catholic site in the world. Its central relic, which attracts as many as twenty million visitors each year, is the likeness of the Blessed Mother beautifully emblazoned on the mantle of the humble Indian to whom she appeared.

    Although the appearance of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Mexico is considered a “private revelation,” and is not in any way part of the Deposit of Faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe is nonetheless the most recognizable expression of Mexican Catholic devotion.


    On Sept. 16, 1810, Our Lady of Guadalupe also became the most recognizable symbol of the quest for an independent Mexican nation. Indeed, her kitschy popularity in commercial music and art today — not all of it very pious — has probably grown more out of the interests spawned by Father Hidalgo’s flag than the devotional aims that inspired the relic housed at the basilica.

    Whatever the case may be, it should be apparent to anyone who has ever seen a tattoo, t-shirt, bumper sticker, billboard or street mural featuring Our Lady of Guadalupe that her singular role of directing hearts and minds toward her son, Jesus Christ, has been increasingly compromised and obscurred by cultural, political, and commercial interests.

    In the United States, businessmen, politicians, and activists have turned to the handmaid of the Lord as a convenient shortcut to the pockets, votes, and support of Mexican Americans — a large and flourishing demographic group. In the process, communities outside of the Roman Catholic faith — and even some within it — are led to believe that Catholics worship Mary, and Mexican Catholics her advocation as Our Lady of Guadalupe in particular.

    In truth, Catholics do not worship Mary (or any other saint) and Mexican Catholics do not adore Our Lady of Guadalupe as a national goddess. But one can get the impression that certain businessmen, politicians, and activists (some of whom profess to be Catholic) just might. At the very least, we can venture to say that they turn to her image to see what it can do for their sales, elections, and the issues of the day.

    But this was not always the case. To be sure, on el dieciséis de septiembre 1810, Father Miguel Hidalgo placed the first uprising toward independence, quite literally, under the protective mantle of Our Lady of Guadalupe. He did so, however, with the understanding that the hope for an independent Mexico ultimately lay with her son, Jesus Christ.

    Captured and executed in 1811, Father Hidalgo did not live to see the successful outcome a decade later. (The cause was taken up by another priest, Father José María Morelos who did not live to see it either.) But among his legacies we can include the strong identification of Our Lady of Guadalupe with an independent Mexican identity — a case of unintentional coding, perhaps, that has not been lost in our markedly secular, commercial culture.

    “Long live Our Lady of Guadalupe!” Father Miguel Hidalgo reportedly cried those words on the very day that he struck out for Mexican independence beneath the standard bearing her likeness. And so she has. But perhaps in a different way than he, or any of his contemporaries, had imagined.

    This September, as we remember Mexican Independence Day, it would be worthwhile to think about the Catholic priests who first took up a cause against a mother country that had become increasingly oppressive — and the martyrdom they suffered for it.

    It would also seem a fitting occassion to reflect soberly on Our Lady of Guadalupe. Not in the limelight that popular culture has cast upon her since the Mexican independence movement. But, rather, in her dignified role as handmaid of the living God who — in authentic Catholic teaching — is the only source of every freedom worth having. Laus Deo.
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    Catholic History:Our Lady of Guadalupe in Battle of Lepanto

    What you may not know is that one of three admirals commanding the Catholic forces at Lepanto was Andrea Doria. He carried a small copy of Mexico's Our Lady of Guadalupe into battle. This image is now enshrined in the Church of San Stefano in Aveto, Italy.

    Many banners wafted at Lepanto. The great one bearing an image of Christ Crucified was the gift of Pope Pius V to Don Juan of Austria. One of the admirals, Gianandrea Doria, a nephew of Andrea Doria often confused with his uncle, used as his ensign, if not a banner, an image of Our Lady of Guadalupe, this only forty years after her appearance in Mexico. The bishop there had commissioned five copies, touching each to the original tilma. The one given to the King of Spain, Philip II, was in turn entrusted to Doria for the battle.

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