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    Default Turkey legalized Pedophilia Last Year.

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=4252610

    http://speisa.com/modules/articles/i...edophilia.html

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Def...&NewsCatID=509

    http://americanactionnews.com/articl...zed-pedophilia




    Turkey’s Constitutional Court stirs outrage by annulling child sex abuse clause

    ANKARA – Anadolu Agency

    [Turkey’s Constitutional Court stirs outrage by annulling child sex abuse clause]

    The Constitutional Court has ruled to annul a provision that punishes all sexual acts against children under the age of 15 as “sexual abuse,” stirring outrage from academics and women’s rights activists who warn that the decision will lead to cases of child abuse going unpunished.

    The Constitutional Court discussed the issue upon an application from a district court, which complained that the current law does not discriminate between age groups in cases of child sexual abuse and treats a 14-year-old as equal to a four-year-old.

    The local court said the law does not provide legal consequences for the “consent” of victims in cases where the child victim is from 12 to 15 years of age and able to understand the meaning of the sexual act. “This creates an imbalance between legal benefits and sanctions that should be preserved in crime and punishment,” the application stated.

    With seven votes against six, the Constitutional Court agreed with the local court and decided to annul the provision. The decision will come into effect on Jan. 13, 2017.

    The local court’s argument and the Constitutional Court’s endorsement have drawn a backlash from academic and human rights circles, which underlined that all individuals under the age of 18 are considered children according to international conventions to which Turkey is a party.

    “First of all, every individual under the age of 18 is a ‘child’ according to international conventions. Seeking a child’s consent in cases of sexual abuse is out of the question,” the chair of the Association to Prevent Child Abuse and Neglect, Professor Bahar Gökler, told Turkey’s state-run Anadolu Agency.

    Gökler said this “calamitous” decision was in violation of child rights.

    The general secretary of the same association, Professor Aysun Baransel, said consent could be sought in cases of sexual intercourse between peers, but it was impossible to speak of consent if the case involves a 60-year-old and a 15-year-old child.

    “The most important point is that unless this provision is urgently addressed, child abusers will start walking around freely because there is no new regulation [to fill the void],” Baransel said.

    She added that child sexual abusers will be tried with provisions related to the sexual abuse of adults following the ruling, as there will be no special law in place after Jan. 13.

    The head of the Child Rights Center of the Ankara Bar Association, Sabit Aktaş, also warned that many children will suffer from the decision.

    “We can foresee what this decision will bring about. Those jurists who are distant from society in their ivory towers should go to courtrooms to see and hear what those children go through when describing their experiences. They should only make a ruling on this issue after doing that,” Aktaş said. The coordinator of the Istanbul Women’s Associations, lawyer Nazan Moroğlu, challenged the argument of the local court that made the appeal in the first place, underlining that every judge has the option to choose between the legal upper limit or the lower limit, based on the nature of each case.

    “To ignore [a judge’s discretion] and annul this provision will create big problems. It will lead to children being vulnerable to sexual abuse and rape, and will lead to more female children getting married at an early age without getting an education,” Moroğlu said.

    She highlighted that the already acute problem of child brides in Turkey, of whom there are already around 3.5 million, would deepen following the ruling.

    Activists are likely to seek a reversal of the Constitutional Court’s ruling. The head of the Turkey Federation of Women’s Association (TKDF), Canan Güllü said they are now considering bringing the case to the attention of the European Court of Human Rights.

    “This decision will lead to unwanted marriages. People will be able to kidnap and rape children, marry them at an early age, and prevent them from going to school,” Güllü said.

    “We are looking to see whether we can make an appeal to annul the decision. We could go to the European Court of Human Rights,” she added.

    Six members of the Constitutional Court dissented from the ruling, saying it would “cause public indignation.”
    The Court has recently also annulled a provision that foresees at least 16 years of imprisonment in cases of child rape for the same reasons. That annulment is set to come into effect on Dec. 23, 2016.

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    "The Constitutional Court discussed the issue upon an application from a district court, which complained that the current law does not discriminate between age groups in cases of child sexual abuse and treats a 14-year-old as equal to a four-year-old."

    This was the reason for law proposal but it was refused by the Turkish Grand National Assembly. It is now same as before that punishes all sexual crimes commited against minors regardless to age.

    Failed troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    "The Constitutional Court discussed the issue upon an application from a district court, which complained that the current law does not discriminate between age groups in cases of child sexual abuse and treats a 14-year-old as equal to a four-year-old."

    This was the reason for law proposal but it was refused by the Turkish Grand National Assembly. It is now same as before that punishes all sexual crimes commited against minors regardless to age.

    Failed troll.
    oh so they only TRIED TO LEGALIZE Pedophilia and it got all the way to the Grand National Assembly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jingorex View Post
    oh so they only TRIED TO LEGALIZE Pedophilia and it got all the way to the Grand National Assembly.


    Arent you American? English is supposed to be your mother language but you seem too idiot to understand what you read...

    The proposal did not want to legalise pedophile but,

    READ AGAIN, moron..
    "The Constitutional Court discussed the issue upon an application from a district court, which complained that the current law does not discriminate between age groups in cases of child sexual abuse and treats a 14-year-old as equal to a four-year-old."

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    i dont undrstand... how is thisa legalizing pedophilia? it is still against the law
    legally there is just no difference between statutory rape of young adolescents and forced sex but the judge will still take it in consideration i guess
    they wanted to change that it doesnt say they wanted to lower the age of consent which is 18 .. higher than in most american states
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/att...0&d=1471874957

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Arent you American? English is supposed to be your mother language but you seem too idiot to understand what you read...

    The proposal did not want to legalise pedophile but,

    READ AGAIN, moron..

    Why so butthurt? Everyone knows Turkey has child marriage issues, its not like you're fooling anyone. Even UNICEF acknowledges it.

    You seem to be more outraged that someone points it out rather than the fact Turkish culture is seen as one that fucks children. Don't hate the messenger.

    http://www.girlsnotbrides.org/child-marriage/turkey/

    Child marriage around the world:
    Turkey

    Turkey has one of the highest rates of child marriage in Europe with an estimated 15% of girls married before the age of 18.

    However, statistical data available may not be representative of the scale of the issue since most child marriages are unregistered and take place as unofficial religious marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingorex View Post
    Why so butthurt? Everyone knows Turkey has child marriage issues, its not like you're fooling anyone. Even UNICEF acknowledges it.

    You seem to be more outraged that someone points it out rather than the fact Turkish culture is seen as one that fucks children. Don't hate the messenger.

    http://www.girlsnotbrides.org/child-marriage/turkey/
    15 % is irrealistic
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    Please someone translate this:

    Çocukların cinsel istismarı
    Madde 103- (Değişik: 18/6/2014-6545/59 md.) (1)
    (1) (Yeniden düzenlenen birinci ve ikinci cümle: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Çocuğu cinsel yönden istismar eden kişi, sekiz yıldan on beş yıla kadar hapis cezası ile cezalandırılır. Cinsel istismarın sarkıntılık düzeyinde kalması hâlinde üç yıldan sekiz yıla kadar hapis cezasına hükmolunur. (Ek cümle: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Mağdurun on iki yaşını tamamlamamış olması hâlinde verilecek ceza, istismar durumunda on yıldan, sarkıntılık durumunda beş yıldan az olamaz.
    Sarkıntılık düzeyinde kalmış suçun failinin çocuk olması hâlinde soruşturma ve kovuşturma yapılması mağdurun, velisinin veya vasisinin şikâyetine bağlıdır. Cinsel istismar deyiminden;
    (1) a) On beş yaşını tamamlamamış veya tamamlamış olmakla birlikte fiilin hukuki anlam ve sonuçlarını algılama yeteneği gelişmemiş olan çocuklara karşı gerçekleştirilen her türlü cinsel davranış,
    b) Diğer çocuklara karşı sadece cebir, tehdit, hile veya iradeyi etkileyen başka bir nedene dayalı olarak gerçekleştirilen cinsel davranışlar, anlaşılır.
    (2) (Yeniden düzenleme: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Cinsel istismarın vücuda organ veya sair bir cisim sokulması suretiyle gerçekleştirilmesi durumunda, on altı yıldan aşağı olmamak üzere hapis cezasına hükmolunur. Mağdurun on iki yaşını tamamlamamış olması hâlinde verilecek ceza on sekiz yıldan az olamaz.
    (3) Suçun;
    a) Birden fazla kişi tarafından birlikte,
    b) İnsanların toplu olarak bir arada yaşama zorunluluğunda bulunduğu ortamların sağladığı kolaylıktan faydalanmak suretiyle,
    c) Üçüncü derece dâhil kan veya kayın hısımlığı ilişkisi içinde bulunan bir kişiye karşı ya da üvey baba, üvey ana, üvey kardeş veya evlat edinen tarafından,
    d) Vasi, eğitici, öğretici, bakıcı, koruyucu aile veya sağlık hizmeti veren ya da koruma, bakım veya gözetim
    yükümlülüğü bulunan kişiler tarafından,
    e) Kamu görevinin veya hizmet ilişkisinin sağladığı nüfuz kötüye kullanılmak suretiyle, işlenmesi hâlinde, yukarıdaki fıkralara göre verilecek ceza yarı oranında artırılır.
    (4) Cinsel istismarın, birinci fıkranın (a) bendindeki çocuklara karşı cebir veya tehditle ya da (b) bendindeki çocuklara karşı silah kullanmak suretiyle gerçekleştirilmesi hâlinde, yukarıdaki fıkralara göre verilecek ceza yarı oranında artırılır.
    (5) Cinsel istismar için başvurulan cebir ve şiddetin kasten yaralama suçunun ağır neticelerine neden olması hâlinde, ayrıca kasten yaralama suçuna ilişkin hükümler uygulanır.
    (6) Suç sonucu mağdurun bitkisel hayata girmesi veya ölümü hâlinde, ağırlaştırılmış müebbet hapis cezasına hükmolunur.

    http://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/MevzuatMetin/1.5.5237.pdf

    I am curious other countiries' codes about child abuse too.
    Example sex with a 16 years old child without her consent.. least 16 years.. with -12 years old.. least 18 years if you do this a few person together or with a gun punishment will be 24 years and 27 years.. and thats are lower limit. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sui Generis View Post
    Please someone translate this:

    Çocukların cinsel istismarı
    Madde 103- (Değişik: 18/6/2014-6545/59 md.) (1)
    (1) (Yeniden düzenlenen birinci ve ikinci cümle: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Çocuğu cinsel yönden istismar eden kişi, sekiz yıldan on beş yıla kadar hapis cezası ile cezalandırılır. Cinsel istismarın sarkıntılık düzeyinde kalması hâlinde üç yıldan sekiz yıla kadar hapis cezasına hükmolunur. (Ek cümle: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Mağdurun on iki yaşını tamamlamamış olması hâlinde verilecek ceza, istismar durumunda on yıldan, sarkıntılık durumunda beş yıldan az olamaz.
    Sarkıntılık düzeyinde kalmış suçun failinin çocuk olması hâlinde soruşturma ve kovuşturma yapılması mağdurun, velisinin veya vasisinin şikâyetine bağlıdır. Cinsel istismar deyiminden;
    (1) a) On beş yaşını tamamlamamış veya tamamlamış olmakla birlikte fiilin hukuki anlam ve sonuçlarını algılama yeteneği gelişmemiş olan çocuklara karşı gerçekleştirilen her türlü cinsel davranış,
    b) Diğer çocuklara karşı sadece cebir, tehdit, hile veya iradeyi etkileyen başka bir nedene dayalı olarak gerçekleştirilen cinsel davranışlar, anlaşılır.
    (2) (Yeniden düzenleme: 24/11/2016-6763/13 md.) Cinsel istismarın vücuda organ veya sair bir cisim sokulması suretiyle gerçekleştirilmesi durumunda, on altı yıldan aşağı olmamak üzere hapis cezasına hükmolunur. Mağdurun on iki yaşını tamamlamamış olması hâlinde verilecek ceza on sekiz yıldan az olamaz.
    (3) Suçun;
    a) Birden fazla kişi tarafından birlikte,
    b) İnsanların toplu olarak bir arada yaşama zorunluluğunda bulunduğu ortamların sağladığı kolaylıktan faydalanmak suretiyle,
    c) Üçüncü derece dâhil kan veya kayın hısımlığı ilişkisi içinde bulunan bir kişiye karşı ya da üvey baba, üvey ana, üvey kardeş veya evlat edinen tarafından,
    d) Vasi, eğitici, öğretici, bakıcı, koruyucu aile veya sağlık hizmeti veren ya da koruma, bakım veya gözetim
    yükümlülüğü bulunan kişiler tarafından,
    e) Kamu görevinin veya hizmet ilişkisinin sağladığı nüfuz kötüye kullanılmak suretiyle, işlenmesi hâlinde, yukarıdaki fıkralara göre verilecek ceza yarı oranında artırılır.
    (4) Cinsel istismarın, birinci fıkranın (a) bendindeki çocuklara karşı cebir veya tehditle ya da (b) bendindeki çocuklara karşı silah kullanmak suretiyle gerçekleştirilmesi hâlinde, yukarıdaki fıkralara göre verilecek ceza yarı oranında artırılır.
    (5) Cinsel istismar için başvurulan cebir ve şiddetin kasten yaralama suçunun ağır neticelerine neden olması hâlinde, ayrıca kasten yaralama suçuna ilişkin hükümler uygulanır.
    (6) Suç sonucu mağdurun bitkisel hayata girmesi veya ölümü hâlinde, ağırlaştırılmış müebbet hapis cezasına hükmolunur.

    http://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/MevzuatMetin/1.5.5237.pdf

    I am curious other countiries' codes about child abuse too.
    Example sex with a 16 years old child without her consent.. least 16 years.. with -12 years old.. least 18 years if you do this a few person together or with a gun punishment will be 24 years and 27 years.. and thats are lower limit. Lol
    No need to spend time on translation.

    He is just a moron who wants to troll us. He can find The Turkish Civil Code in English if really interested.

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    Tuesday 22 November 2016
    Turkey scraps plans for law that would have pardoned rapists who marry underage victims
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7431171.html
    and yes, we have problem with child marriage , especially in the South-east
    particularly in the South-east
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7431171.html

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