Is Erdogan a Marxist in fact?

**~~Böri~~** · 05-04-2017, 08:22 AM

Its difficult to understand that guy for me and I wonder what's his politics. İ started to think if he isnt trying to prove point of Marx. Ya know Marx says 'Religion is opiate of peoples, so he means richer segments use for control of poorer weaker segments.
During his Bursa rally before last referandum Erdogan said to crowd DONT PUT YOUR AFTERLIFE AT RISK BY OPPOSING THIS REFORM (BY VOTING NO).

Earlier he said in another meeting that opponents so NO voters will be 'hashr, (resurrected and bound together) with Pkk terrorists.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-Hell-with-Pkk

There is a rise of atheism among younger generations, when people see religion is used to gather votes and threaten opposing voters with Hell fire they hate religion as results.
Despite İ think he is tactically successful politician I dont understand Erdogan point. He tries to prove Marx right?
Note: Some will call me 'Commie, like they did elsewhere I am not. I dont believe in Marxism or socialism contents.

**~~Böri~~** · 05-04-2017, 08:56 AM

İ think in the end of the day that he isnt Marxist despite some his politics are aligned. I doubt he even know what's marxism despite his speech effects work in that side. People around him push him believe he is sort of Mahdi İ guess, the leader Muslims wait for 1500 years. İ think his advisors and aides make him believe he's chosen.

Think! Even in this forum we have friends who consider him 'Khan of Turks, he cant be Khan of Turks for obvious reasons and leader of Muslims? Except his followers I also doubt he is considered like that. Especially Arab sheikhs of Gulf dont seem to see him as their Leader.

**Methmatician** · 05-04-2017, 11:03 AM

"Religion is the opiate of the masses" - that means that people looked towards religion to heal their suffering. What's with this trend of right-wingers trying to blame everyone they don't like as being 'marxist'? If you're wondering if someone is a marxist read some Marx and make your own inferences.

**~~Böri~~** · 05-04-2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Methmatician

"Religion is the opiate of the masses" - that means that people looked towards religion to heal their suffering. What's with this trend of right-wingers trying to blame everyone they don't like as being 'marxist'? If you're wondering if someone is a marxist read some Marx and make your own inferences.

According to Marxists that 'opiate, is administrated by 'oppressors, to the masses but here you just talk about its effect on masses. It's why all Communist governments always worked to wipe out religion and make people Atheists. When marxists heard Erdogan who indirectly means 'if you dont vote for me you will go to hell, is a form of this according to them. Marxists in Turkey reacted as Middle ages revivalism by Erdogan after he said that. İts why I think he worked with that speach to prove Marxist point true, despite Erdogan probably doesnt even know whats socialist phylosophy or marxism about. Religion shouldnt be used to increase votes thru threatening people with afterlife effects, also according to religion or at least Islam isnt also correct to try to catch more votes by deciding who goes to Hell?