Marine Le Pen’s niece ‘guarantees’ gay marriage repeal if Marine Le Pen becomes president

[MissMischief]

If elected president, Marine Le Pen will repeal France’s gay marriage laws, the Front National candidate’s politician niece Marion Maréchal-Le Pen has vowed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...riage-elected/

Speaking on BFMTV Sunday, the young Le Pen said she would personally ensure her aunt follows through with the pledge if elected on 7 May.

“It will not be the first priority, but … [repealing gay marriage] is a promise that we will stick to, and I will personally guarantee that this bill is demolished,” the MP for Vaucluse said.

Proposal No. 87 of the presidential candidate’s programme for France promises to repeal gay marriage without cancelling same-sex unions which have already taken place.

“The Front National will replace the provisions made under the Taubira law [the bill enabling people of the same sex to wed, named after Justice Minister Christine Taubira] with civil unions,” it reads.

Le Pen stressed the Front National are also determined to honour other pledges outlined within proposal No. 87, such as the promise “to reserve PMA (medically assisted procreation) as a tool to treat fertility problems”, which would restrict the treatment to heterosexual couples.

The bill to legalise marriage between homosexual couples was originally set to provide taxpayer-funded treatment to extend PMA to women living together as partners, a measure still demanded by LGBT activists and prominent left wing figures in France.

“And similarly, we will also oppose the legalisation of surrogate mothers, and the circumventions of the [laws against surrogacy] that take place,” Le Pen added.

The Front National candidate’s globalist rival in the election, Emmanuel Macron, backs gay marriage and has previously said he is in favour of extending the right to PMA to lesbian couples.

Macron was last week slammed as “anti-family” by French conservative group La Manif pour Tous (“Protest for Everyone”), who said the establishment favourite in the presidential race places money above people.

The organisation, which was responsible for protests in which hundreds of thousands of people turned out to protest gay marriage in 2013, released a statement describing Macron as an “openly anti-family candidate” and urging their supporters not to vote for him.

A victory for Macron would result in “civilisational upheaval” and create “new injustices and inequalities for women and children”, according to the pro-family group.

It's still puzzling me that so many people are so upset about certain people getting married. They're not getting married in your living room, or on your front yard, get over yourselves. It doesn't affect you. At all.

Plus a true conservative would recognize that government has no place in the regulation of marriage. Conservatives believe in less government regulation over our personal lives and more freedom, right? So it doesn't make sense to me why these so-called conservatives want to deny other people the freedom to live their lives the way they choose. We don't have to approve of others' personal choices, we just have to tolerate them.

[Not a Cop]

If elected president, Marine Le Pen will repeal France’s gay marriage laws, the Front National candidate’s politician niece Marion Maréchal-Le Pen has vowed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...riage-elected/






It's still puzzling me that so many people are still soo upset about certain people getting married. They're not getting married in your living room, or on your front yard, get over yourselves. It doesn't affect you. At all.

Plus a true conservative would recognize that government has no place in the regulation of marriage. Conservatives believe in less government regulation over our personal lives and more freedom, right? So it doesn't make sense to me why these so-called conservatives want to deny other people the freedom to live their lives the way they choose. We don't have to approve of others' personal choices, we just have to tolerate them.

It's still puzzling me that so many people are still soo upset about certain ethnic groups being removed. They're not being removed in your living room, or on your front yard, get over yourselves. It doesn't affect you. At all.

We don't have to approve of others' personal choices, we just have to tolerate them.

[Anthropos]

Breitbart is one of the worst in alternative media, in my opinion, in fact, I would say that American alternative media is bad in general. It doesn't say when this repeal would happen, as far as I can see. Probably because the headline is half a lie.

As for conservatism, it has also been distorted. The idea that it's mainly about less interference is false. That fits libertarians who think that suicide is no big deal, who even believe in assisted suicide, who think that abortion is no problem, and so on and so forth - yes, they are much like liberals from a right wing point of view, and most of them also do support open borders policies, as they should, considering their ideas.

Resistance to "same sex marriage" also has nothing to do with preventing people from living their lives in accordance with personal choices. There is no contradiction between that resistance and tolerance of homosexuality. Marriage is a way to lift a union up, to elevate it to be something special, to glorify it, in a sense. And of course, to safeguard it and to ensure a better situation for the children of a union. Unless you are also in favor of same sex adoptions, I see no reason to support same sex marriage.

Extreme left wing protestant churches can of course wed people of the same sex all they want, and I am pretty sure that's not going to be banned in France, but the debate here is about civil unions.

[LoLeL]

Good playing card

[Sockorer]

If elected president, Marine Le Pen will repeal France’s gay marriage laws, the Front National candidate’s politician niece Marion Maréchal-Le Pen has vowed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...riage-elected/






It's still puzzling me that so many people are so upset about certain people getting married. They're not getting married in your living room, or on your front yard, get over yourselves. It doesn't affect you. At all.

Plus a true conservative would recognize that government has no place in the regulation of marriage. Conservatives believe in less government regulation over our personal lives and more freedom, right? So it doesn't make sense to me why these so-called conservatives want to deny other people the freedom to live their lives the way they choose. We don't have to approve of others' personal choices, we just have to tolerate them.

It seems to me that you're erroneously conflating the Front National with American Conservatives and Libertarians, probably because you don't actually understand what any of them believe. Last time I checked less government regulation and more freedom wasn't Front National's selling point, and American conservatives generally just want less taxes and government interference in the economy not the freedom to act like a perverted mongrel, Libertarians are the ones who bitch about government interference in personal choices which supposedly don't effect or hurt anybody else. And I'm not even going to go into how trivial and unburdensome state regulation of marriage is.

Now of course gay marriage does effect me because it effects society as whole, gay marriage normalizes homosexuality and further alienates marriage from it's original purpose.

[Petalpusher]

Because it's the trojan horse to impose GPA/PMA, once people are married, legally due to the EU and "human rights" it cannot discriminate between different type of marriages, it's part of the story's flow in the long run. I don't care personally if they get legal rights, commodities for succession etc...which besides the activists is all they want in reality. It's just (vain) trying to not be useful idiots as usual, people will cry over commodifications of bodies and so on then.

[MissMischief]

It seems to me that you're erroneously conflating the Front National with American Conservatives and Libertarians, probably because you don't actually understand what any of them believe. Last time I checked less government regulation and more freedom wasn't Front National's selling point, and American conservatives generally just want less taxes and government interference in the economy not the freedom to act like a perverted mongrel, Libertarians are the ones who bitch about government interference in personal choices which supposedly don't effect or hurt anybody else. And I'm not even going to go into how trivial and unburdensome state regulation of marriage is.

Now of course gay marriage does effect me because it effects society as whole, gay marriage normalizes homosexuality and further alienates marriage from it's original purpose.

What's the founding principle of Conservatism? Individual liberty.

Consistent conservatives should shape their views in comformity with the essential belief that individuals, not governments, have the right to decide the course of their own lives. Sadly, some conservatives are not consistent and they wish to force their beliefs onto others. Rather than professing consistent, conservative beliefs, some have taken to advocating for a strikingly totalitarian approach.

Conservatives who profess such a high regard for individual liberty - for the power and freedom of choice and laissez faire - must stay consistent

As for your last statement....Christfag detected. No need to even discuss about it - trying to apply reason and logic to religion just doesn't seem to work. I really don't see any harmful effects of gay marriage. A gay couple getting married does not impact the validity or sanctity of your or any hetero couple's marriage.

[Melki]

If elected president, Marine Le Pen will repeal France’s gay marriage laws, the Front National candidate’s politician niece Marion Maréchal-Le Pen has vowed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...riage-elected/






It's still puzzling me that so many people are so upset about certain people getting married. They're not getting married in your living room, or on your front yard, get over yourselves. It doesn't affect you. At all.

Plus a true conservative would recognize that government has no pl.
ace in the regulation of marriage. Conservatives believe in less government regulation over our personal lives and more freedom, right? So it doesn't make sense to me why these so-called conservatives want to deny other people the freedom to live their lives the way they choose. We don't have to approve of others' personal choices, we just have to tolerate them.

FN is tracitionalist when it comes to family and its social structure.
And protectionist, statist, national-socialist about finance and economy.
Typical far-right party.

[Sockorer]

What's the founding principle of Conservatism? Individual liberty.

Consistent conservatives should shape their views in comformity with the essential belief that individuals, not governments, have the right to decide the course of their own lives. Sadly, some conservatives are not consistent and they wish to force their beliefs onto others. Rather than professing consistent, conservative beliefs, some have taken to advocating for a strikingly totalitarian approach.

Conservatives who profess such a high regard for individual liberty - for the power and freedom of choice and laissez faire - must stay consistent

As for your last statement....Christfag detected. No need to even discuss about it - trying to apply reason and logic to religion just doesn't seem to work. I really don't see any harmful effects of gay marriage. A gay couple getting married does not impact the validity or sanctity of your or any hetero couple's marriage.

No you're thinking of Libertarianism, there is no founding or ultimate principle of Conservatism it's just a disposition and an assorted vomit of associated political positions, there's no one coherent ideology behind American Conservatism. Your insistence otherwise is just a reflection of your complete and utter lack of understanding, and need for a convenient rhetorical tool.

I didn't even mention religion in my previous post, and after all there's not some kind of objective morality that makes ostracizing sexual deviants from society a bad thing, so you really don't have any definitive grounds to say that my subjective opinion is wrong. It's just like my opinion man. And so therefore my opposition to gay marriage is perfectly rational on those grounds since it's a means to my end.

[Mortimer]

There are many Le Pens active in politics. I know Jean Marie, Marine and Marion, is there anyone else?