Dodecad Ancestry Project

[Pallantides]

Unlike Turks, the Armenians don't really have any Siberian or Far Asian admixture though.


Armenian_D/Turkish_D

Far Asian 02%/2.3%
Siberian 0.2%/2.7%

[orangepulp]

Unlike Turks, the Armenians don't really have any Siberian or Far Asian admixture though.


Armenian_D/Turkish_D

Far Asian 02%/2.3%
Siberian 0.2%/2.7%

The Asian admixture is what makes us different from Armenians, Georgians, Assyrians, etc..

[Pallantides]

Clusters Galore (fastIBD edition)


I'm in cluster 7(Scandinavia)

[Eva]

So, how is that against my point? You cluster genetically close to indigenous populations of the region (Indo-European has been imposed upon Armenians by conquerors). At the same time your language is totally foreign - hence you are aboriginal folks that have abandoned their previous ethnicity and identity for a new one.

Indo-European language being imposed upon Armenians by conquerors is a theory without any evidence. It was invented for the support of the Kurgan theory. As you said indigenous population of the region were Armenians (as genetic studies have proven); and there's no trace of conquerors with an Indo-European language, that is it was the indigenous language of the region as well, as Indo-European -Armenian place-names date much earlier than the date of a supposed "invading".

[orangepulp]

fastIBD analysis of Balkans/West Asia

I am in cluster number ''1'' ( includes Cappadocia (Behar et al.) Turks, Armenians, one Greek, Georgian and Assyrian )

[cilicia]

Any idea what ties 14 Turks,5 Armenians, 1 Greek, 1 Assyrian and 1 Georgian together in Cluster #1 ? It seems like an interesting group, but I'm not sure I follow entirely because I don't believe I have ever seen a Greek and a Georgian in a cluster together.

[Artaxat]

Any idea what ties 14 Turks,5 Armenians, 1 Greek, 1 Assyrian and 1 Georgian together in Cluster #1 ? It seems like an interesting group, but I'm not sure I follow entirely because I don't believe I have ever seen a Greek and a Georgian in a cluster together.

Cluster #1 is interesting indeed, we need some experts to inteprete what it means.

We need experts like Padre

[Artaxat]

Indo-European has been imposed upon Armenians by conquerors

whoever doesn't know you might take your hotair seriously.

good that your repute as a troll is known by everyone

[Padre Organtino]

Indo-European language being imposed upon Armenians by conquerors is a theory without any evidence. It was invented for the support of the Kurgan theory. As you said indigenous population of the region were Armenians (as genetic studies have proven); and there's no trace of conquerors with an Indo-European language, that is it was the indigenous language of the region as well, as Indo-European -Armenian place-names date much earlier than the date of a supposed "invading".

Armenian is very different from neighbouring Indo-Euro languages like Hittian. How could that happen if Armenians spoke it before anyone else and spread the IE languages through the world? The much better hypothesis is that Armenian was imposed upon locals by intruders from Balkans (Armenian indeed has higher degree of similarity with ancient and modern non-slavic Balkan IE languages). In addition Armenians clearly shows signs of pre IE language substrate - most likely Hurrian.

Kurgan theory's validity rests upon the fact that horse domestication and chariots are tied to that cultures and they were key markers of proto-IE. Not to mention that Armenians have almost no R1A haplogroup which is a genetic marker of proto-IE migrations.
Both you and Turks speak languages that are foreign to Anatolia. They are in addition slightly different from an average Anatolian genetically.

[Padre Organtino]

whoever doesn't know you might take your hotair seriously.

good that your repute as a troll is known by everyone

By everyone you mean ARmenians? Sorry but absolute majority of local users sees you guys as a bunch of clowns