Could Iberian E-V13 be Visigothic?

[Kriptc06]

Could the Iberian V13 have been brought by the migrating barbarians also known as the visigoths?
They were in the balkans for some time and went on a pillaging route until they settled in the Iberian peninsula (goths, that split into visigoths and ostrogoths)






btw, of course they brought also other Y haplos with them, but lets focus on E-V13, being most prevalent in the balkans; It's known that the goths mixed with local populations where they go.


Could it be, or not.
Discuss

[Sacrificed Ram]

We don't konw much about E-V13 subclades and their geographical distribution.

We have E-V13 in Iberia with 7000 years old, but visigoths (and alans) also could carry them to Iberia.

The studies need evolute to do more precise affirmations.

[Damião de Góis]

Could be roman. Could be there all along too. Not easy to tell.

[Kriptc06]

We don't konw much about E-V13 subclades and their geographical distribution.

We have E-V13 in Iberia with 7000 years old, but visigoths (and alans) also could carry them to Iberia.

The studies need evolute to do more precise affirmations.

Well I'm V13+, so I still don't know my final subclade.
But still an interesting hypothesis.

Could be roman. Could be there all along too. Not easy to tell.

I hope that DNA studies can tell this in the future.

[Kriptc06]

What I found on Europedia, bummer


The Visigothic Kingdom was the larger and longer lived than the Suebi Kingdom, and yet the Goths do not seem to have had any significant genetic impact on the Iberian population - at least not in terms of Germanic Y-DNA. The reason might simply be that they were no longer a predominantly Germanic tribe. After all, the Goths had lived for many centuries in Eastern Europe and nearly two more centuries in the Balkans before invading Italy, Gaul and Iberia. They could have assimilated a lot of non-Germanic people on the way, notably R1a and I2a1b Slavs and predominantly E1b1b, I2a1b and J2 Balkanic people. It would be pretty complicated at the moment to untangle the Balkanic E1b1b and J2 from all the others (Neolithic, Phoenician, Greek, Roman, Jewish, Arabic) found in Iberia.

http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spai...ugal_dna.shtml

[Cristiano viejo]

I doubt it, Visigothics were not famous for being swarthy.

[Kriptc06]

I doubt it, Visigothics were not famous for being swarthy.

Y-dna haplogroups have no direct links with overall apearance

[Grab the Gauge]

E-V13 always comes from Albanian overlords.

[Kriptc06]

E-V13 always comes from Albanian overlords.

they could have joined the gothic legion and helped to sack rome and conquer iberia
I agree

[Dick]

Y-dna haplogroups have no direct links with overall apearance

It does, not pigmentation wise though.