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Thread: Could Iberian E-V13 be Visigothic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    It has nothing to do with "Albanians" since Albanians were neither forbiddable seafarers nor have they left traces of their civilization in Iberia assuming "Albanians" have anything to do with Illyrians.

    The only advanced civilization in the Ancient world was that of Ancient Greeks. Ev13 originated from Greece and that's where its oldest subclades are found, and before that from Cyprus and Palestine (10,000 ago).

    We also know that agriculture was spread to Europe by Greeks and not by some vague "Neolithic" group since the "Phoenican" Jasmine marker is not found in European populations but the Greek markers are found all over Europe.

    The Goths were I who later mixed with R1b and had pretty much nothing to do with Ev13. In the Balkans the Goths remained mostly untainted until the Slavs came along in 600 AD.

    The migration of the Jasmine's accross the Mediterranean 10,000 years ago would have left traces in modern Germanic and Slavic DNA if they had been in contact with the Mediterranean populations at the time and it didn't.
    Lol, Greek coping. Albanians built Greece and are the oldest E-V13. It's not about spreading civilization it's about spreading E-V13. Greece is a Y-DNA toilet for Barbarian men to release their genes in to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanide View Post
    Could the Iberian V13 have been brought by the migrating barbarians also known as the visigoths?
    It is probably the less probable source, but could happen, if they captured
    some slaves or some guy make an alliance with them. But still, in very small
    singular numbers. More probable are farmer migrations, Greek colonization,
    Roman resettlement and some Aragonian subjects who run before Turks.
    Some Phoenicians could brought it also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Skull and body shape also brain function.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854822/
    Why I was saying this, people were laughing.
    But was enugh to write it in a paper, and now it is serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanide View Post
    Y-dna haplogroups have no direct links with overall apearance
    Yes, it has. You do not look like this becasue of Y:



    And Y subdivision called hg tells you your original subracial
    looking (which in many cases people do not longer have).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Skull and body shape also brain function.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854822/
    Wat.

    I doubt that my being R1b-U152 would have any effect on my brain or skull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post


    yummy

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    Different subclades of J2a dominate especially in Western Crete, more than 40% and E subclades are very low

    lol at "albanian overlords"-last country that obtained indipendence from ottomans(500 years!)
    -islamic majority, they were the only balkan population to convert en masse so easily
    -clusterfuck language with more than half of dictionary borrowed from latin, greek or slavic
    -toponymystical map a total catastrophe, filled with slavic named villages, cities and rivers, even their capital has no clear etymology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potentia View Post
    Wat.

    I doubt that my being R1b-U152 would have any effect on my brain or skull.
    It doesn't. Just look at the members photos section

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadorian View Post
    Different subclades of J2a dominate especially in Western Crete, more than 40% and E subclades are very low

    lol at "albanian overlords"-last country that obtained indipendence from ottomans(500 years!)
    -islamic majority, they were the only balkan population to convert en masse so easily
    -clusterfuck language with more than half of dictionary borrowed from latin, greek or slavic
    -toponymystical map a total catastrophe, filled with slavic named villages, cities and rivers, even their capital has no clear etymology
    Your just jealous . And Albanian is hardly influenced by Greek and Slavic so don't try and promote your ethnicity and show their influence in the Albanian language.
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    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    It has nothing to do with "Albanians" since Albanians were neither forbiddable seafarers nor have they left traces of their civilization in Iberia assuming "Albanians" have anything to do with Illyrians.

    The only advanced civilization in the Ancient world was that of Ancient Greeks. Ev13 originated from Greece and that's where its oldest subclades are found, and before that from Cyprus and Palestine (10,000 ago).

    We also know that agriculture was spread to Europe by Greeks and not by some vague "Neolithic" group since the "Phoenican" Jasmine marker is not found in European populations but the Greek markers are found all over Europe.

    The Goths were I who later mixed with R1b and had pretty much nothing to do with Ev13. In the Balkans the Goths remained mostly untainted until the Slavs came along in 600 AD.

    The migration of the Jasmine's accross the Mediterranean 10,000 years ago would have left traces in modern Germanic and Slavic DNA if they had been in contact with the Mediterranean populations at the time and it didn't.
    You retarded kurva, E-V13 has nothing to do with Greeks except in parts of the Middle east and Sicily, E-V13 was spread mainly by Indo-Europeans during the Bronze age that absorbed it. It's funny how you think that Greeks existed during the Neolithic period even though your language is Indo-European
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    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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