The Dacian myth: Origin of Romanians and Vlachs.

[ADonkeyBrain]

DarknessWin and Laberia being cringy as fuck tbh.

My view is that Albanians are the descendants of the subset of (semi-Latinized) Illyrians who escaped full Latinization quite likely due to the Avaro-Slavic turmoil and breakdown of imperial rule in present-day Albania roughly north of the Shkumbin and perhaps as far north as Kosovo. Though there seems to have been a re-expansion to Kosovo in late medieval times along with their historically attested late medieval expansion to Epirus, southern Greece, Italy etc.

This can explain the substrate words in common with Romanian whose ancestor might have come from the area of Moesia Superior (and perhaps Dacia too but they seem to appear even north of the Danube by the 11th century or so, anyway, see the Blakumen), the apparent share of some Illyrian words, the much more important influence of Latin over Greek (Latin > Greek in Albania in inscriptions roughly at the Shkumbin), the potential continuity in the area of Komani-Kruja**, the historical (re-)appearance in Arvanon, the relative lack of Slavic toponymy and hydronomy in that area of Albania relative to the rest of it etc. As has been mentioned, Albanian seems to also have a certain Dalmatian Latin element in it, at least in onomastics from my recollection.

**In which "Latin" or "future-Albanian" might be a bit of a false dilemma since you might have more and less latinized Illyrian-speaking populations inhabiting the same area.

[Seya]

they got it from different books that mention it , google books etc .wikipedia etc . I posted another source in the 2nd page or so and thats from a book. . none of the sources i posted are albanian. I rarely ever quote Albanian sources.

all my knowledge of history come from non-Albanian sources. But somehow people are getting emotional "AAHHHHHHH ALBANIANS"


Some of these you can find by doing research . my thread wasnt to discuss transylvania. Dacians were under Roman occupation for only 100 years. they couldnt of been latinized or even 20% - 40% latinized

i know this and u're right...100 years of occupation doesn't explain the language and even less the homogeneity of the romanian language across the whole country. but as i said..there are more then one hypothesis. if u ask me even the hungarian language is difficult to be explained seeing that they are genetically central europeans.

[Laberia]

DarknessWin and Laberia being cringy as fuck tbh.

My view is that Albanians are the descendants of the subset of (semi-Latinized) Illyrians who escaped full Latinization quite likely due to the Avaro-Slavic turmoil and breakdown of imperial rule in present-day Albania roughly north of the Shkumbin and perhaps as far north as Kosovo. Though there seems to have been a re-expansion to Kosovo in late medieval times along with their historically attested late medieval expansion to Epirus, southern Greece, Italy etc.

This can explain the substrate words in common with Romanian whose ancestor might have come from the area of Moesia Superior (and perhaps Dacia too but they seem to appear even north of the Danube by the 11th century or so, anyway, see the Blakumen), the apparent share of some Illyrian words, the much more important influence of Latin over Greek (Latin > Greek in Albania in inscriptions roughly at the Shkumbin), the potential continuity in the area of Komani-Kruja**, the historical (re-)appearance in Arvanon, the relative lack of Slavic toponymy and hydronomy in that area of Albania relative to the rest of it etc. As has been mentioned, Albanian seems to also have a certain Dalmatian Latin element in it, at least in onomastics from my recollection.

**In which "Latin" or "future-Albanian" might be a bit of a false dilemma since you might have more and less latinized Illyrian-speaking populations inhabiting the same area.

Ok. When happened this migration of Albanians in Epir?

[Grishnack]

i know this and u're right...100 years of occupation doesn't explain the language and even less the homogeneity of the romanian language across the whole country. but as i said..there are more then one hypothesis. if u ask me even the hungarian language is difficult to be explained seeing that they are genetically central europeans.

It is hard to explain, indeed. But not impossible. Some languages have the capability of imposing themselves as dominant. America has been British for about 170 years, but English is still the dominant language. ALso, it's not like the "free Dacians" couldn't have adopted Latin, as well..

[Wrong]

Shoutout to Trilecce: You fucking Mizrahi piss of shit.

[Laberia]

DarknessWin and Laberia being cringy as fuck tbh.

My view is that Albanians are the descendants of the subset of (semi-Latinized) Illyrians who escaped full Latinization quite likely due to the Avaro-Slavic turmoil and breakdown of imperial rule in present-day Albania roughly north of the Shkumbin and perhaps as far north as Kosovo. Though there seems to have been a re-expansion to Kosovo in late medieval times along with their historically attested late medieval expansion to Epirus, southern Greece, Italy etc.

This can explain the substrate words in common with Romanian whose ancestor might have come from the area of Moesia Superior (and perhaps Dacia too but they seem to appear even north of the Danube by the 11th century or so, anyway, see the Blakumen), the apparent share of some Illyrian words, the much more important influence of Latin over Greek (Latin > Greek in Albania in inscriptions roughly at the Shkumbin), the potential continuity in the area of Komani-Kruja**, the historical (re-)appearance in Arvanon, the relative lack of Slavic toponymy and hydronomy in that area of Albania relative to the rest of it etc. As has been mentioned, Albanian seems to also have a certain Dalmatian Latin element in it, at least in onomastics from my recollection.

**In which "Latin" or "future-Albanian" might be a bit of a false dilemma since you might have more and less latinized Illyrian-speaking populations inhabiting the same area.

I want to repeat my question to you:

Ok. When happened this migration of Albanians in Epir?

[Scholarios]

I want to repeat my question to you:

laviria- how many unanswered questions u got laying around this forum?

[Laberia]

laviria- how many unanswered questions u got laying around this forum?

I have no doubt that you have a donkey brain. But i want to ask, is this ADonkeyBrain another your sockpuppet?

[Scholarios]

I have no doubt that you have a donkey brain. But i want to ask, is this ADonkeyBrain another your sockpuppet?

laviria, i am not a troll like you to make sock-puppets. but donkey seems an educated man. far more educated than a degenerate twat like yourself who never opened a non-porno book in your life.

[Laberia]

laviria, i am not a troll like you to make sock-puppets. but donkey seems an educated man. far more educated than a degenerate twat like yourself who never opened a non-porno book in your life.

You don't have nothing to do in your life? Only this kind of this idiot post? Sign out and walk five minutes in the street in front of your home.