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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I would like you to add the K23b results of all four gps.
    1. P g-mother - Volkhovsky district of Leningrad oblast' for last 3 generations.

    2. P g-father - 1\2 Baltic german with ancetry traces on all line down to Early 18 century, only german surnames so far. 1\4 Russian from Velikie Luki (Pskov Oblast') 1\4 Polish from Lakhva village (Southern Belarus).

    3. M g-mother - 3\4 Russian, 1\4 Polish from Vilno.

    4. M g-father - 1\2 Kursk, 1\2 Volga region Russian.


    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 54.93
    2 Caucasian 25.57
    3 European_Early_Farmers 6.39
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 4.15
    5 East_Siberian 3.61
    6 South_Indian 1.95
    7 South_Central_Asian 1.02
    8 Arctic 0.9
    9 Austronesian 0.78
    10 South_East_Asian 0.3
    11 Archaic_African 0.28
    12 North_African 0.12

    1 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 3.1
    2 Balt ( ) 3.74
    3 Russian-North-West ( ) 3.82
    4 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 3.93
    5 Russian-West ( ) 4.1
    6 Russian_North ( ) 4.13
    7 Moksha ( ) 4.37
    8 Estonian ( ) 4.86
    9 Latvian ( ) 4.97
    10 Russian_Vologda ( ) 5.07

    1 54.1% Pole ( ) + 45.9% Russian-Ural ( ) @ 2.13
    2 63% Belarusian_South ( ) + 37% Russian-Ural ( ) @ 2.18
    3 71.7% Russian_Vologda ( ) + 28.3% Czech ( ) @ 2.2
    4 59.4% Pole ( ) + 40.6% Finn_East ( ) @ 2.23
    5 61.5% Russian_Vologda ( ) + 38.5% Sorb ( ) @ 2.24
    6 50.8% Russian-North ( ) + 49.2% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 2.24
    7 59.6% Russian-North-West ( ) + 40.4% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 2.26
    8 64.7% Russian_Vologda ( ) + 35.3% Kashub ( ) @ 2.26
    9 59.3% Pole ( ) + 40.7% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.27
    10 67.9% Belarusian_South ( ) + 32.1% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.3


    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 48
    2 Caucasian 27.52
    3 European_Early_Farmers 13.7
    4 South_Central_Asian 4.28
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.96
    6 African_Pygmy 0.65
    7 East_Siberian 0.57
    8 Austronesian 0.37
    9 South_Indian 0.32
    10 Melano_Polynesian 0.31
    11 Archaic_Human 0.21
    12 Amerindian 0.14

    1 Kashub ( ) 2.84
    2 Slovak ( ) 3.46
    3 Sorb ( ) 4.39
    4 Czech ( ) 4.41
    5 Ukrainian_West ( ) 5.28

    1 70.6% Ukrainian_East ( ) + 29.4% Frisian ( ) @ 1.83
    2 71.9% Ukrainian_East ( ) + 28.1% Irish ( ) @ 1.93
    3 66.3% Ukrainian_East ( ) + 33.7% Dutch ( ) @ 1.96
    4 72.6% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 27.4% Irish ( ) @ 2.19
    5 88.3% German ( ) + 11.7% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.2



    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 51.25
    2 Caucasian 26.44
    3 European_Early_Farmers 10.47
    4 South_Central_Asian 2.95
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 2.72
    6 Near_East 1.43
    7 South_Indian 1.29
    8 Paleo_Siberian 0.97
    9 Melano_Polynesian 0.71
    10 South_East_Asian 0.49
    11 Arctic 0.44
    12 East_Siberian 0.38
    13 Amerindian 0.33
    14 Subsaharian 0.13


    1 Sorb ( ) 2.95
    2 Russian-North-West ( ) 3.27
    3 Kashub ( ) 3.38
    4 Russian-West ( ) 3.7
    5 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 4.44
    6 Russian_North ( ) 4.48
    7 Slovak ( ) 4.81
    8 Belarusian_West ( ) 4.84
    9 Belarusian-East ( ) 4.91
    10 Russian_South ( ) 5.06

    1 85.3% Russian_South ( ) + 14.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 1.55
    2 83.9% Russian_South ( ) + 16.1% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 1.57
    3 86% Russian_South ( ) + 14% Orcadian ( ) @ 1.57
    4 84.2% Russian_South ( ) + 15.8% Icelandic ( ) @ 1.58
    5 59.2% Russian_South ( ) + 40.8% German ( ) @ 1.62
    6 79.6% Russian_South ( ) + 20.4% Swede ( ) @ 1.62
    7 84.7% Russian_South ( ) + 15.3% CEU ( ) @ 1.64
    8 66.3% Ukrainian ( ) + 33.7% Swede_Saami ( ) @ 1.66
    9 81.7% Russian_South ( ) + 18.3% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 1.66
    10 72.8% Belarusian_South ( ) + 27.2% Dutch ( ) @ 1.66


    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 48.28
    2 Caucasian 26.92
    3 European_Early_Farmers 11.13
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 4.65
    5 Near_East 1.6
    6 Amerindian 1.16
    7 South_Central_Asian 1.01
    8 Australoid 0.94
    9 Arctic 0.92
    10 North_African 0.9
    11 South_East_Asian 0.9
    12 Melano_Polynesian 0.89
    13 East_Siberian 0.46
    14 Tungus-Altaic 0.18
    15 African_Pygmy 0.07

    1 Sorb ( ) 3.46
    2 Kashub ( ) 3.88
    3 Russian-West ( ) 4.51
    4 Slovak ( ) 4.67
    5 Russian-North-West ( ) 4.77
    6 Ukrainian_West ( ) 4.89
    7 Belarusian-East ( ) 5.06
    8 Russian_North ( ) 5.1
    9 Belarusian_West ( ) 5.52
    10 Russian_South ( ) 5.65

    1 80.8% Belarusian-East ( ) + 19.2% Swede ( ) @ 2.42
    2 80.1% Balt ( ) + 19.9% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.43
    3 85.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 14.9% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 2.49
    4 79.5% Belarusian-East ( ) + 20.5% Dane ( ) @ 2.49
    5 85.3% Belarusian-East ( ) + 14.7% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.53
    6 94.6% Belarusian-East ( ) + 5.4% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.53
    7 82.7% Belarusian-East ( ) + 17.3% Belgian ( ) @ 2.53
    8 94.7% Belarusian-East ( ) + 5.3% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.53
    9 86.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 13.9% British ( ) @ 2.54
    10 74.6% Russian-West ( ) + 25.4% Austrian ( ) @ 2.54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    1. P g-mother - Volkhovsky district of Leningrad oblast' for last 3 generations.
    You also said Verkhny Volochyok.

    I think you're almost pan-Russian minus German ancestry (and the Terminator look ).
    By the way, Lakhva is not mentioned as a Polish settlement on Wikipedia. It's in the east of Brest oblast, there's few Poles over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    By the way, Lakhva is not mentioned as a Polish settlement on Wikipedia. It's in the east of Brest oblast, there's few Poles over there.
    Maybe not now, but before WW2 there were much more Poles in Belarus, most of whom got deported to the west of Curzon Line after the war.

    Some famous (enough to get their own Wikipedia entry) Poles were born there:

    https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadeusz_Rewaj - born in Lakhva in 1931, later after WW2 lived in Szczecin

    https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Hutten-Czapski - born in Lakhva in 1816

    Wikipedia says there was a Catholic church in Lakhva so the number of Poles had to be significant. Now it is probably Orthodox church, right?

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    Before 1939 Lakhva was in Łuniniec (Luninets) county of Poland. According to the census of 1931, the whole county had 108,663 inhabitants:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...echny_1931.pdf

    - 16,535 Poles
    - 7,811 Jews
    - 80,323 "Locals" ("Tutejsi" or Poleshuks)
    - 2,850 Belarusians
    - 596 Russians
    - 264 Ukrainians
    - 185 Germans
    - 2 Czechs
    - 2 Lithuanians
    - 41 others
    - 54 not reported
    Last edited by Peterski; 06-24-2019 at 08:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Maybe not now, but before WW2 there were much more Poles in Belarus, most of whom got deported to the west of Curzon Line after the war.

    Some famous (enough to get their own Wikipedia entry) Poles were born there:

    https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadeusz_Rewaj - born in Lakhva in 1931, later after WW2 lived in Szczecin

    https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Hutten-Czapski - born in Lakhva in 1816

    Wikipedia says there was a Catholic church in Lakhva so the number of Poles had to be significant. Now it is probably Orthodox church, right?

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    Before 1939 Lakhva was in Łuniniec (Luninets) county of Poland. According to the census of 1931, the whole county had 108,663 inhabitants:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...echny_1931.pdf

    - 16,535 Poles
    - 7,811 Jews
    - 80,323 "Locals" ("Tutejsi" or Poleshuks)
    - 2,850 Belarusians
    - 596 Russians
    - 264 Ukrainians
    - 185 Germans
    - 2 Czechs
    - 2 Lithuanians
    - 41 others
    - 54 not reported
    Good information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Good information.
    Poleshuks are a subgroup of Belarusians or a group intermediate between Ukrainians and Belarusians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Poleshuks are a subgroup of Belarusians or a group intermediate between Ukrainians and Belarusians?
    They're considered Belarusian in the RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    You also said Verkhny Volochyok.

    I think you're almost pan-Russian minus German ancestry (and the Terminator look ).
    By the way, Lakhva is not mentioned as a Polish settlement on Wikipedia. It's in the east of Brest oblast, there's few Poles over there.
    Yeah, i forgot to change the description.

    As for my pan-russianness i guess I have to agree, although being part german is also nothing surpring in Russia IMO.

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