Jews and non-Caucasoid admixture?

[Bobby Martnen]

Jews are usually not seen as white, but that's mainly because they don't see themselves as part of the European family.

Ashkenazi Jews are almost always seen is White in America. It may be different in Eastern Europe.

Anyway, most Europeans have some Caucasian or Eastern Mediterranean, so that doesn't really matter.

Still, Ashkenazi Jews are half Levantine, half North Italian. In that sense, they're similar to Gypsies, another group that lives in Europe and is heavily admixed with Europeans, but originated outside of Europe.

[Leto]

Ashkenazi Jews are almost always seen is White in America. It may be different in Eastern Europe.

Not by white nationalists. And most Jews think of themselves as Jewish first and foremost, not just 'generic whites'.
In Eastern Europe whiteness is not the primary identity of people.

[Leto]

Still, Ashkenazi Jews are half Levantine, half North Italian. In that sense, they're similar to Gypsies, another group that lives in Europe and is heavily admixed with Europeans, but originated outside of Europe.

Gypsies are usually brown or super swarthy, many even have a pretty Indian look.

[Bobby Martnen]

Not by white nationalists. And most Jews think of themselves as Jewish first and foremost, not just 'generic whites'.
In Eastern Europe whiteness is not the primary identity of people.

By virtually everyone who isn't a White nationalist, they are seen as White.

Whiteness wasn't the primary identity in America until Ted Kennedy opened the floodgates to the Third World.

[Bobby Martnen]

Gypsies are usually brown or super swarthy, many even have a pretty Indian look.

But they're all at least 1/3 European genetically.

And a lot of mixed Gypsies could pass as atypical Europeans, like Mortimer for example.

[Leto]

By virtually everyone who isn't a White nationalist, they are seen as White.

Whiteness wasn't the primary identity in America until Ted Kennedy opened the floodgates to the Third World.

That's because 85-90% of the pop. was white and the only significant minority were the blacks. When you live in a homogenous society, you don't think about race or ethnicity on a daily basis, unless some lefties remind you of diversity and all that bullcrap.

[Leto]

But they're all at least 1/3 European genetically.

And a lot of mixed Gypsies could pass as atypical Europeans, like Mortimer for example.

He's half Serbian. Unmixed Balkan or Eastern European Gypsies don't look white at all. They are darker than many Muslim immigrants such as Turks, for example.

[Bobby Martnen]

He's half Serbian. Unmixed Balkan or Eastern European Gypsies don't look white at all. They are darker than many Muslim immigrants such as Turks, for example.

Yes, he's half Serbian, but notice that he looks much whiter than people who are half Indian, half White. It shows that Gypsies have significant European admixture, even if they don't always show it phenotypically.

[User50]

It is East African, not West African, and I'll try to dig it up later. I've seen a few with it (2ish% East African). Some could be noise though.

Are you sure that the kits with SSA weren't at least half Sephardi? I believe Maghrebi Jews are about 2-3% SSA. Yemeni Jews have even more SSA, about 7%.

Note that North African Jews aren't really ethnically North African, but are basically refugees from Spain. Which is why their SSA is so low compared to every other group in North Africa. They did occasionally mix with Berbers though, as their 2-3% SSA shows.

[Smeagol]

Jews are usually not seen as white,

In America almost everybody sees them as white.